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Do you believe in God? Then you have a moral duty to fight climate change, writes Jim Antal

I Love An Atheist

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Trump helped Indiana. We are # 5 in US coal mining. Also, we burn coal to make cheap, dependable electricity, which is sold to other states. The Democrats wanted to destroy all that.

I didn't know there was any coal mining in Indiana. It must be down in the southern half? I lived in South Bend, Indiana for a few years. :)
 

I Love An Atheist

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Yeah, it is southern Indiana, which is very hilly, as you know. South Bend gets all that snow from Lake Michigan...

Sure does! My last winter there, before moving to Alaska, schools were closed for snow days what seemed like every other week. Meanwhile, Alaska had a mild winter with so little snowfall that in the spring, the forests in Kenai were suffering from lack of snow melt, and there were wild fires.
 

FollowTheWay

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You are just going to keep on saying the same things to me no matter what I reply, aren't you? We have been through this in a previous thread. I will stand on what I already said. There is no need to repeat it ad infinitum.

I give you the benefit of the doubt that you mean well. I just regard you as being deceived. You apparently are comfortable imputing motives to me, and grandly evil ones at that. You don't have to answer this question to me, but ask it in private in your own heart. To impute grandly evil motives to me only to score a point in an argument: is that encouraged in the Gospel?
We can't have a dialogue unless it's a back and forth. Obviously all you want to do is to spread your propaganda. I feel soory for you and sorry for America because that's the general situation of our country. Without working together a democracy cannot stand.
 

FollowTheWay

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The left


FTW is the one I once accused (still not sure he isn't) of being a now banned -CRABTOWNBOY !! These responses from him (FTW) are almost precisely what CTB would have created.
If you aren't familiar with said poster, look him up & you'll see what I mean.
It was IMPOSSIBLE to discuss anything related to politics with him as he would end up accusing conservatives of all sorts of evil actions/beliefs/intents, while never answering any questions asked of him by others.

I DO admire your patience and civility, but it is wasted on such as these.
No I'm not. I'll put that question to the administrators.
 

Bro. Curtis

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No, FTW is a three times-banned member with various names.

Crabtownboy is 1689David or whatever.

Both of them think we’re stupid.
 

I Love An Atheist

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We can't have a dialogue unless it's a back and forth.

You really don't think we've gone back and forth enough yet? :)

Obviously all you want to do is to spread your propaganda.

Actually, it's more like I want to counter the propaganda I used to believe.

I feel soory for you and sorry for America because that's the general situation of our country. Without working together a democracy cannot stand.

Let's work together, then, but there is no need to feel sorry for me. :)
 

FollowTheWay

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You really don't think we've gone back and forth enough yet? :)



Actually, it's more like I want to counter the propaganda I used to believe.



Let's work together, then, but there is no need to feel sorry for me. :)
Then please answer my question about air pollution. I think it is highly pertinent.
 

I Love An Atheist

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Then please answer my question about air pollution. I think it is highly pertinent.

I said before in a very recent thread on this topic that I am not opposed to regulation per se. I am opposed to global regulation. Therefore it means I am not opposed to regulation of pollution per se. I am opposed to global regulation of air pollution.
 

Yeshua1

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Societies and cultures aren't saved. Individuals are saved. One day all of us will stand before Christ and be judged. Waving the American flag or proclaiming we are a veteran will have nothing to do with our faith. The so-called social gospel is the true gospel. Read MAT 25.
Strange that neither Jeus or paul mentioned the Social Gospel, but the REAL one instead!
 

OnlyaSinner

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You never answered my question. Why do you want to continue to pollute our air and water for the next generation? If we address this we will also be addressing the climate concerns. God gave us His creation to take care of. Why do you want to trash God's creation?

Classic "When did you stop beating your wife?" type of questions. ILAA has never said he wanted to do such things. In fact he stated up-thread that he liked the smaller grassroots efforts to clean up the environment, just not the heavily-funded-by-elites NGOs.
 

I Love An Atheist

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Classic "When did you stop beating your wife?" type of questions. ILAA has never said he wanted to do such things. In fact he stated up-thread that he liked the smaller grassroots efforts to clean up the environment, just not the heavily-funded-by-elites NGOs.

Thank you, but I am a "she" :)

Yes, you are correct that I no longer support the NGOs because I have read documented facts exposing them. I said a lot more about that in the "she's a false prophet" thread than I did in this thread. I don't want to keep repeating things or putting the same links in, to the point where they become spam-like :)
 

I Love An Atheist

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And it is true that I support grassroots community efforts by people who want to keep their children and farms from being poisoned.

I support even more than that. I support the federal gov historically standing up for the natives in Alaska so they could stay on their ancestral lands. And also stepping in to keep wildlife from being overhunted and fish from being overfished.

But I also support drilling in ANWR. The Alaskan economy runs on oil, fishing and tourism. But oil is definitely number one. Most of Alaska is already like one huge national park with a few human refuges dotting it.

On the North Slope, where there were already caribou and there has already been drilling, the caribou population has not been harmed.

There are about twenty or thirty different native corporations. They are all different. Some of them want to keep their ancestral hunting grounds in a condition where they can continue to live off their land. This is the stereotype I would have expected to find.

But the native corp in the ANWR wants to drill. One rep was quoted as saying, "You can tell President Obama that we are not interested in living in the world's largest open air museum." Those are pretty strong words.

We have to think about the humans who also live on the land, and not only the plants and animals.
 

Yeshua1

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Thank you, but I am a "she" :)

Yes, you are correct that I no longer support the NGOs because I have read documented facts exposing them. I said a lot more about that in the "she's a false prophet" thread than I did in this thread. I don't want to keep repeating things or putting the same links in, to the point where they become spam-like :)
The basic problem is that both the Greeners and the Evolutionists will look at the hard data, and both refuse to accept what it is really saying, as there grid filtering is just way too strong!
 

FollowTheWay

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Strange that neither Jeus or paul mentioned the Social Gospel, but the REAL one instead!
[Mat 25:31 KJV]
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

[Mat 25:32 KJV]
And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats:

[Mat 25:33 KJV]
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

[Mat 25:34 KJV]
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

[Mat 25:35 KJV]
For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

[Mat 25:36 KJV]
Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

[Mat 25:37 KJV]
Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed [thee]? or thirsty, and gave [thee] drink?

[Mat 25:38 KJV]
When saw we thee a stranger, and took [thee] in? or naked, and clothed [thee]?

[Mat 25:39 KJV]
Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

[Mat 25:40 KJV]
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me.
 

Yeshua1

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[Mat 25:31 KJV]
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

[Mat 25:32 KJV]
And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats:

[Mat 25:33 KJV]
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

[Mat 25:34 KJV]
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

[Mat 25:35 KJV]
For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

[Mat 25:36 KJV]
Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

[Mat 25:37 KJV]
Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed [thee]? or thirsty, and gave [thee] drink?

[Mat 25:38 KJV]
When saw we thee a stranger, and took [thee] in? or naked, and clothed [thee]?

[Mat 25:39 KJV]
Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

[Mat 25:40 KJV]
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me.
Are we saved by doing good works then?
And many see that referring to how nations will treat Jews and Christians in the Great tribulation, as to how God shall the nations...
 

OnlyaSinner

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Thank you, but I am a "she" :)

Yes, you are correct that I no longer support the NGOs because I have read documented facts exposing them. I said a lot more about that in the "she's a false prophet" thread than I did in this thread. I don't want to keep repeating things or putting the same links in, to the point where they become spam-like :)

Oops! But I only missed by one. :Laugh
And I agree with the rest of this post and with your next one.
 
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