Yes, but the Lord was pleased with how David danced before Him in joy and thanksgiving, correct?
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Since the subject of the Regulative Principle was broached in this thread, I thought I'd post a link to an article in the Journal of Baptist Theology and Ministry. It is written by Scott Aniol, who is a professor in the School of Church Music at Southwestern Seminary in Forth Worth and blogs at the Religious Affections blog. I've met Scott a couple of times at a singing event at Southwestern, and I've profited from some of his articles on his blog. (Kevin Bauder also blogs at Religious Affections.
Form and Substance: Baptist Ecclesiology and the Regulative Principle
Form and Substance: Baptist Ecclesiology and the Regulative Principle
David was not dancing in the Temple, and there is no account in the Bible of anyone doing that.
For the information of anyone who may be interested, the use of musical instruments in the Temple was limited by David himself. These were to be cymbals, lyres and harps (1 Chronicles 25:6). There were no trumpets in the regular worship, and no drums. This was also observed by Nehemiah around 500 years later (Nehemiah 12:27, 36).
Of course, in those days there was no amplification, so large numbers of musicians were required. Today one guitarist or keyboard player can blast the ears of the largest congregation.
Exactly so. We certainly should not be taking our music from the world. Each year I go to a Christian conference in Aberystwyth, Wales. The singing is wonderful with about 1,500 strong Welsh voices praising God together. The accompaniment is a solitary keyboard. It's there to keep us in time and in tune, not for entertainment. And that's how it should be.John of Japan said:Seriously, one furlough we were in a church with lousy acoustics (low ceiling), and they had a rock band playing full blast. My wife was in tears, it was so loud and invasive. The emotion produced was disgust. The rock band was the basic one, just like I was asked to join as a bass guitarist in 1969--singer, lead guitar, rhythm guitar, drum set. That's how the Beatles and countless other groups did it.
Here's the problem with most CCM: it imitates the world, as witness this church rock band being exactly like the typical '60's rock band. How is that supposed to be right? Aren't we supposed to lead the world, instead of imitate it? And did I say that drums are torture? They can kill you!
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That sounds wonderful!
I would also say that there are Christian musicians blessed by God to be able to sing, play piano, guitar, drum, violin et all, for His glory.
You have a Scripture for that, do you? I thought not.
Everything we do should be to the glory of God. Let musicians do their stuff in concert halls or recording studios; but in the church let them keep the singing in time and in tune, and nothing else. The idea that God enjoys aesthetic performance is without Biblical support. An athlete can glorify God in his chosen discipline, but I don't think we want people performing the triple jump in church.
Actually I do have one, 1 Corinthians 10:31, so those gifted by God to be musicians should play music unto the Lord!
That is actually what I said in my post.
{QUOTE="Martin Marprelate"]Everything we do should be to the glory of God.[/QUOTE]
That does not mean that guitarists, drummers etc. have a God-given right to come into the church and blast the ears of the rest of us.
Probably my favorite Christian band is Casting Crowns. I like the fact that they seek to minister to people in their music. However, the lead singer of the band is a music or choir director at his church, and he will not play his music there. I thought that was a great testimony for him and the band.
While I understand people having bands in their service and seeking to draw people more inclined to contemporary music, I myself (and my wife) prefer congregational singing over the "special" music, lol. I like the old hymns, but, that is just how it has always been in most of the fellowships I have been a part of. We once thought to visit a community church which was a split from a baptist church, and it was being held in the auditorium of a middle school. We walked in the door and the band's music (which about 75 feet in front of us) hit us in the chest, and we turned around and went and found another church to visit. We are currently looking for a new church home (and I think we have decided on one), but we have noticed that most of the fellowships these days are doing "live music." Most of it has been tasteful, but, there just isn't a reverent quality to some of it. And being a former musician, I know firsthand how music can be an idol of sorts.
God bless.
That does not mean that guitarists, drummers etc. have a God-given right to come into the church and blast the ears of the rest of us.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you on that, as Christian liberty extends only so far as not offending our Brother, but if the youth group during their meeting wanted to blast loose....
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It might be better received in a Pentecostal Church.
"Those who chain their passions, do so, because their passions are small enough to be chained." - William Blake
Luke 7:44-47 NASB
44 Turning toward the woman, He said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave Me no water for My feet, but she has wet My feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You gave Me no kiss; but she, since the time I came in, has not ceased to kiss My feet. 46 You did not anoint My head with oil, but she anointed My feet with perfume. 47 For this reason I say to you, her sins, which are many, have been forgiven, for she loved much; but he who is forgiven little, loves little.”
When i was still in the AOG, someone who was an IBF visited us, as was invited, and he wanted to know if we jumped the pews. I told him no, as would be pulling a muscle, and then would have to have divine healing!It might be better received in a Pentecostal Church.
"Those who chain their passions, do so, because their passions are small enough to be chained." - William Blake
Luke 7:44-47 NASB
44 Turning toward the woman, He said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave Me no water for My feet, but she has wet My feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You gave Me no kiss; but she, since the time I came in, has not ceased to kiss My feet. 46 You did not anoint My head with oil, but she anointed My feet with perfume. 47 For this reason I say to you, her sins, which are many, have been forgiven, for she loved much; but he who is forgiven little, loves little.”