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Does God have a Mother?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Eliyahu, Dec 11, 2005.

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  1. Eliyahu

    Eliyahu Active Member
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    You didn't answer the question from Jesus in Mt 22:45
     
    #201 Eliyahu, Dec 14, 2005
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    Yes, Mary is the mother of the Word, the Mother of God, the mother of Jesus. Jesus is the Word. Jesus is not just the clothes that the Word wears. Mary gave birth to Jesus, who is God in the flesh (NOT God wearing flesh). She is NOT the source of God, but rather the mother of God (the Word made flesh) in that Jesus (the Word made flesh) was conceived in her, grew in her womb, was birthed by her, and was raised by her.

    If that doesn't clarify it for you, I don't know what will.
     
    #202 natters, Dec 14, 2005
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    How can the Word "become" something he already was?

    I think I answered this because the flesh is changeable
     
    #203 Eliyahu, Dec 14, 2005
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    In the beginning there was the Word:

    Therefore do you mean that Mary mothered (gave birth to) the Word?

    Mary has a special technic to produce the Word, God? That is theology of the goddess worshippers! Watch out!
     
    #204 Eliyahu, Dec 14, 2005
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    You must interpret Jn1:14 with 1Ti 3:16
    God was manifested in the flesh

    When Bible say Word bacame flesh, it meant both
    1) invisible Word became visible flesh
    2) Word was enfleshed
     
    #205 Eliyahu, Dec 14, 2005
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    Eliyahu,

    I don't know what else to say. We can banter back and forth for weeks, but the bottom line is that you are opposing fundamental Christian doctrine. I will NOT move from my stance, and I hope and pray you will continue to study this matter on your own under the guidance of someone who has the time and patience to guide you away from what has been considered heresy for almost two millennia.
     
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    When I wear clothes I do not "become" clothes.


    I think Jn1:14 is a general description and then it details in 1Ti 3:16

    God was manifested in the flesh ( not become flesh itself)

    Jn 1:14 uses "ginomai" which means
    to be created into, to become, to come into a particular form of, to grow etc.

    Now you are saying Mary gave birth to the Word in the beginning? or Word started to existed only after Mary gave birth to Him?
    Which one is correct?
     
    #207 Eliyahu, Dec 14, 2005
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    I think that is good idea to conclude about the debate temporarily. But to me, any traditional or orthodixical theory is nothing compared to the Bible itself.
     
    #208 Eliyahu, Dec 14, 2005
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    His Words interpreted by whom, you?
    Your view indeed. :cool:
    Ah...historical revisionism rears its ugly head once again...
     
    #209 Doubting Thomas, Dec 14, 2005
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    Doubting Thomas, please stop rearing the witchhunters head!
     
    #210 Eliyahu, Dec 14, 2005
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    Eliyahu, you sould not waste your time with Doubting Thomas, he is form Rome, did you notice? LOL.
     
    #211 Bunyon, Dec 14, 2005
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    Even though one doesn't reveal such, I notice there are many Roman Catholic Baptists here!
     
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    The pity is that people are judging or discerning some ancient person without any literature written by that person, but with just the literatures written by his opponents, and even such opponents are full of heresies like Idol worship, goddess worship etc.
    One good thing with this type of debate is that it reveals who is who, who belongs to Him
     
    #213 Eliyahu, Dec 14, 2005
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    But I forsee that someday will come soon when such idol worshippers dominate the world. However there are further assurances in the Bible that the true believers will win eventually and the followers of Anti-Christ will suffer a lot even during the tribulation.
     
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    Really? So who has been revealed in this debate as not belonging to Him?
     
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    Being a mother does not mean I created the child -- God is the Creator. Calling Mary the mother of the God-man is simple fact - she was his mother. It does not mean she was the cause of his existence or that she was his creator.

    This is an affirmation of the deity of Jesus, not an elevation of Mary.
     
    #216 Marcia, Dec 14, 2005
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    I know but don't need to talk about it!

    You have not answered my question but I don't know you are ready to answer it!
     
    #217 Eliyahu, Dec 14, 2005
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    Mt. 22:45
    If David then calls Him, Lord, how is He his Son? (descendant)?

    Tell me your opinion
     
    #218 Eliyahu, Dec 14, 2005
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    Do you worship flesh as God?

    Did you notice that Sarx has no article?
     
    #219 Eliyahu, Dec 14, 2005
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    Are you saying that Jesus was a divine spirit who was merely covered with flesh (enfleshed)?
     
    #220 Marcia, Dec 14, 2005
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