Does Scripture Teach That God Created All Music?

[Scripture More Accurately]

See response #4

In answer to your question, I would say God gave the ability to make music to mankind, like He gave the ability to make and fashion things from metal, cloth, wood, etc, and we choose some of what to produce from His gifts.

What do you mean when you say, "We choose some of what to produce from His gifts"?

 

[Quantrill]

Very interesting. How do you support these statements from Scripture, especially the idea that there are 3 categories of man-made music: reflects God's music, reflects the devil's music, or reflects man's music?

Well, we know God is musical. And music is used in worship to Him. (Job 38:7) (Ez. 40:44) (1 Chron. 15:16)

satan is musical also. (Ez. 28:13) And as satan imitates God, (Is. 14:14), satan will have his music for his worship.

As I already noted, man is created in the image of God and will then have the creativity toward music also. (Gen. 1:27) We see it in the line of Cain. (Gen. 4:21) We see it in the line of Seth. (2 Sam. 23:1)

Quantrill

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

satan is musical also. (Ez. 28:13) And as satan imitates God, (Is. 14:14), satan will have his music for his worship.

As I already noted, man is created in the image of God and will then have the creativity toward music also. (Gen. 1:27) We see it in the line of Cain. (Gen. 4:21) We see it in the line of Seth. (2 Sam. 23:1)

Quantrill

Do you know of any Scripture that actually speaks of Satan's having "his music for his worship"?

 

[rsr]

God only created the music I like.

 

[Quantrill]

Do you know of any Scripture that actually speaks of Satan's having "his music for his worship"?

I just showed you.

What ever your real name is, show me in Scripture the actual words, with your name included, declaring that you are saved.

Show me in Scripture the actual words that say 'God is a Trinity made up of three Persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit".


Quantrill

 

[George Antonios]

Literally every evil thing in creation - Lucifer included - is something that God created but which angels and men corrupted.
So I'm not sure how helpful that question is in its broad form.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

I just showed you.

Quantrill

Providing passages that provide a basis for making legitimate and necessary logical inferences (such as for the truth of the Trinity) is not the same thing as providing passages that actually speak about something. Do you know of any passages that do explicitly (not by way of inferences) speak of Satan's having his music for his worship?

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

Literally every evil thing in creation - Lucifer included - is something that God created but which angels and men corrupted.
So I'm not sure how helpful that question is in its broad form.

Hmm. So did God create the golden calves that Aaron and Jeroboam made? Did God create the altar that Ahaz saw in Damascus and commanded Urijah to duplicate?

2 Kings 16:10 And king Ahaz went to Damascus to meet Tiglathpileser king of Assyria, and saw an altar that was at Damascus: and king Ahaz sent to Urijah the priest the fashion of the altar, and the pattern of it, according to all the workmanship thereof. 11 And Urijah the priest built an altar according to all that king Ahaz had sent from Damascus: so Urijah the priest made it against king Ahaz came from Damascus.

 

[SGO]

What do you mean when you say, "We choose some of what to produce from His gifts"?

Well I would say some by asking who created the music here?

"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?... ... When the morning stars sang together...:"
Job 38:4a and 38:7a

 

[SGO]

"It seems that many believers may think that God created all music."

How did you come to make this statement?

 

[Steven Yeadon]

OK, God clearly created every pitch and rhythm of song. God created every combination of pitch and rhythm there of, along with every instrument. He is the Creator. There are doubtless instruments God has invented form the foundation of the world that we haven't created yet. God did not make the lyrics for every song though. The angels may be singing song by God or simply songs they in sinlessness made. However, man's lyrics are flawed and often sinful, as we are.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

Well I would say some by asking who created the music here?

"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?... ... When the morning stars sang together...:"
Job 38:4a and 38:7a

The text does not say who created the music being sung here. We can be certain that it was not human beings. Also, this passage does not mention the playing of any instruments so it does not seem to be relevant for our understanding about instrumental music.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

"It seems that many believers may think that God created all music."

How did you come to make this statement?

The statement is only an impression that is based on numerous previous interactions with other professing believers over the years and from reading various written materials as well.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

OK, God clearly created every pitch and rhythm of song. God created every combination of pitch and rhythm there of, along with every instrument. He is the Creator. There are doubtless instruments God has invented form the foundation of the world that we haven't created yet. God did not make the lyrics for every song though. The angels may be singing song by God or simply songs they in sinlessness made. However, man's lyrics are flawed and often sinful, as we are.

Where does Scripture teach that "God created every combination of pitch and rhythm there of, along with every instrument"? On what biblical basis do you seemingly hold that He created all the combinations of elements of instrumental music, but He "did not make the lyrics for every song though"?

 

[Steven Yeadon]

Where does Scripture teach that "God created every combination of pitch and rhythm there of, along with every instrument"? On what biblical basis do you say that He clearly created all the combinations of elements of instrumental music, but He "did not make the lyrics for every song though"?

God knows all and His creation is very good, correct?

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

God knows all and His creation is very good, correct?

Yes, God knows all, and His creation was very good when He originally created it. The sinfulness of Satan and his demons and of mankind has corrupted the universe.

 

[Steven Yeadon]

Yes, God knows all, and His creation was very good when He originally created it. The sinfulness of Satan and his demons and of mankind has corrupted the universe.

So, music is intrinsically corrupted and instruments are corrupted and outside the pleasing will of God? That doesn't sound at all like the curse you speak of in Genesis 3. It would seem to me that mankind would need to do something sinful to corrupt music, not that music is automatically sinful. That just doesn't fit with the sovereignty of God as Creator of all seen and unseen.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

So, music is intrinsically corrupted and instruments are corrupted and outside the pleasing will of God? That doesn't sound at all like the curse you speak of in Genesis 3. It would seem to me that mankind would need to do something sinful to corrupt music, not that music is automatically sinful. That just doesn't fit with the sovereignty of God as Creator of all seen and unseen.

I did not say anything about music being "intrinsically corrupted and instruments are corrupted and outside the pleasing will of God."

It seems that you believe that the curse did not have any effects on instrumental music. If that is what you believe, what biblical basis do you have for believing that is true?

Also, you say that it would seem to you "that mankind would need to do something sinful to corrupt music, not that music is automatically sinful." Again, I never said and am not saying that music is automatically sinful.

Having said that, however, what biblical basis do you have for holding that there is no instrumental music that is sinful, if that is what you hold?

Finally, you seem to hold that any corruption of music would have to be the result of the actions of mankind. Do you have any Bible to support that it would have to be mankind and not Satan and his demons or both?

 

[Steven Yeadon]

I did not say anything about music being "intrinsically corrupted and instruments are corrupted and outside the pleasing will of God."

It seems that you believe that the curse did not have any effects on instrumental music. If that is what you believe, what biblical basis do you have for believing that is true?

Also, you say that it would seem to you "that mankind would need to do something sinful to corrupt music, not that music is automatically sinful." Again, I never said and am not saying that music is automatically sinful.

Having said that, however, what biblical basis do you have for holding that there is no instrumental music that is sinful, if that is what you hold?

Finally, you seem to hold that any corruption of music would have to be the result of the actions of mankind. Do you have any Bible to support that it would have to be mankind and not Satan and his demons or both?

Where is your evidence for your position. If my position is unsupported, so is yours. I can of course defend my position from the sovereignty of God as Creator.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

Where is your evidence for your position. If my position is unsupported, so is yours. I can of course defend my position from the sovereignty of God as Creator.

I would like to hear how you defend your position "from the sovereignty of God as Creator."