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Donald Trump's latest step toward tyranny

righteousdude2

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https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald...mber_when_obama_had_frequent_secret_meetings/


"Obama’s private briefings for liberal members of the media, which excluded conservatives, were well-documented. A few:

December 2012: Several journalists reported that MSNBC hosts were meeting privately with President Obama to discuss the impending “fiscal cliff” fight.

May 2013: NPR’s Ari Shapiro reported that President Obama was meeting privately with “lefty columnists,” but hastened to add that there was “nothing nefarious” about it.

November 2013: President Obama met again with liberal journalists, as Obamacare struggled with the failure of healthcare.gov and other problems.

March 2015: Politico’s media reporter, Hadas Gold, reported that “a group of journalists and columnists,” all on the left, met privately with President Obama, but the White House refused to say “who else was at the meeting or what was discussed.”

And you are getting closer to a complete OCD overload and meltdown. Time to chill? Have you read your Bible today ctb? Try it, it may just save you from your complusion.
 

InTheLight

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And you are getting closer to a complete OCD overload and meltdown. Time to chill? Have you read your Bible today ctb? Try it, it may just save you from your complusion.
Next time you want to post something about race take your own advice.

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Yeshua1

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Christianity has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. We need to realize that the Kingdom of God has nothing to do with the kingdoms of men. As Christians our citizenship is not with the United States of America.
 

Yeshua1

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Christianity has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. We need to realize that the Kingdom of God has nothing to do with the kingdoms of men. As Christians our citizenship is not with the United States of America.
That is true, but liberalism is much worse than being a conservative when compared to biblical standards!
 

MennoSota

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That is true, but liberalism is much worse than being a conservative when compared to biblical standards!
I would argue that it depends on the area of comparison. I would note that Jesus did not take kindly to the conservative Pharisees and Saducees of his day. I believe he called them whitewashed walls.

In the end we all carry nothing of value before the throne of God.
 

Yeshua1

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I would argue that it depends on the area of comparison. I would note that Jesus did not take kindly to the conservative Pharisees and Saducees of his day. I believe he called them whitewashed walls.

In the end we all carry nothing of value before the throne of God.
I was thinking mainly along social morals lines!
 

InTheLight

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The first thing Hitler did was demand nationalized health care.
No, it wasn't. The Germans already had nationalized health care starting under the Weimar Republic in the mid 1920's.

The first thing Hitler did on Day One was set new elections for six weeks hence. Then he promised the industrialists he would rearm Germany, promising them government contracts. On Day Three he started banning Communist meetings and shutting down their press. So, yes, Crabby is correct--shutting down the press is the first thing he did. Along with that was Hitler's priority of eliminating opposition parties. (a priority of all despots.)

Three weeks after he came to power he accused the Communists of being on the verge of launching a revolution and on February 27, 1933, the Reichstag burned down. (84 years ago yesterday).

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I guess my question is, we all got tired of everything being blamed on Bush. Will we now resort to blaming Obama for the next 4-8 years?

As long as Obama is involved with 'The Center For American Progress', he is fair game. Their own self description, “Our goal is to be the central hub of the Trump resistance.”

LINK - "In his remarks to activists, Mr. Obama urged them to stop moping and to ratchet up their opposition to Mr. Trump...He promised to join their cause soon after, telling them: “You’re going to see me early next year, and we’re going to be in a position where we can start cooking up all kinds of great stuff to do.”

 

MennoSota

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Pro alternate lifestyles, relative morals, no religion, oro abortion, that is group talking about here...
Those are certainly one area of moral issues, in which the left are not in Biblical alignment.

There are many issues of showing practical love and concern for justice of which the right could take notes and learn from the left.
 

Yeshua1

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Those are certainly one area of moral issues, in which the left are not in Biblical alignment.

There are many issues of showing practical love and concern for justice of which the right could take notes and learn from the left.
Excep that many time social justice for liberals means agrrement with abortion, gay marriages, redistributing wealth, loss of religious freedoms etc!
 

Aaron

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No, it wasn't. The Germans already had nationalized health care starting under the Weimar Republic in the mid 1920's.

The first thing Hitler did on Day One was set new elections for six weeks hence. Then he promised the industrialists he would rearm Germany, promising them government contracts. On Day Three he started banning Communist meetings and shutting down their press. So, yes, Crabby is correct--shutting down the press is the first thing he did. Along with that was Hitler's priority of eliminating opposition parties. (a priority of all despots.)

Three weeks after he came to power he accused the Communists of being on the verge of launching a revolution and on February 27, 1933, the Reichstag burned down. (84 years ago yesterday).

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We could debate it, but I didn't say institute, I said demand, just as he demanded a minimum wage.

But the economics of the left are Hitler's economics.

https://mises.org/library/hitlers-economics
 

InTheLight

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We could debate it, but I didn't say institute, I said demand, just as he demanded a minimum wage.

Where do you get this misinformation?

Why would Hitler demand a national health system when they already had one for nearly a decade before he came to power?

As to demanding a minimum wage, also not true. Hitler decreed what wages would be for various job categories and they were deliberately set lower than what the market had previously been paying. So far as I know there was no such thing as minimum wages in Nazi Germany.


Wages were set by so-called labor trustees, appointed by the Labor Front. In practice, they set the rates according to the wishes of the employer—there was no provision for the workers even to be consulted in such matters—though after 1936, when help became scarce in the armament industries and some employers attempted to raise wages in order to attract men, wage scales were held down by orders of the State. Hitler was quite frank about keeping wages low. “It has been the iron principle of the National Socialist leadership,” he declared early in the regime, “not to permit any rise in the hourly wage rates but to raise income solely by an increase in performance.”16In a country where most wages were based at least partly on piecework, this meant that a worker could hope to earn more only by a speed-up and by longer hours.--The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, chapter Eight, "Life in the Third Reich".
 
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HankD

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Christianity has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. We need to realize that the Kingdom of God has nothing to do with the kingdoms of men. As Christians our citizenship is not with the United States of America.
Then why are you here opinionating in these discussions in a DEBATE FORUM called News/Current Events (in a substantive way at that) ?

Physician heal thyself?

HankD
 

MennoSota

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Then why are you here opinionating in these discussions in a DEBATE FORUM called News/Current Events (in a substantive way at that) ?

Physician heal thyself?

HankD
Do I make the false assumption that Christians are posting on a Baptist Discussion board?
News and Current events all fall under the umbrella of God's Kingdom and Sovereign rule over the kingdoms of men.
Our first and primary citizenship is in God's Kingdom. Our role of ambassador is within the foreign kingdoms of men.
 

righteousdude2

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Do I make the false assumption that Christians are posting on a Baptist Discussion board?
News and Current events all fall under the umbrella of God's Kingdom and Sovereign rule over the kingdoms of men.
Our first and primary citizenship is in God's Kingdom. Our role of ambassador is within the foreign kingdoms of men.

I know that you mean well ... still you seem to forget that God has ordained and placed governments over and around us all while we live on this earth! Try reading Romans; 13:1-2 as a starting point! Romans 13:1-2Living Bible (TLB)
13 Obey the government, for God is the one who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. 2 So those who refuse to obey the laws of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow.

Also: Matthew 22:15-22 Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. 16 They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. “Teacher,” they said, we know you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren’t swayed by men, because you pay no attention to who they are. 17 Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?” 18 But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? 19 Show me the coin used for paying the tax.” They brought him a denarius, 20 and he asked them, “Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?” 21 “Caesar’s,” they replied. Then he said to them, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” 22 When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away.

Then for added reading, if you are still with me, check this out!
https://www.christianblog.com/blog/...ders-but-not-every-leader-is-ordained-of-god/

Once you are finished brother, I would love to hear your honest response based on the scritpure given!
 

MennoSota

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I know that you mean well ... still you seem to forget that God has ordained and placed governments over and around us all while we live on this earth! Try reading Romans; 13:1-2 as a starting point! Romans 13:1-2Living Bible (TLB)
13 Obey the government, for God is the one who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. 2 So those who refuse to obey the laws of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow.

Also: Matthew 22:15-22 Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. 16 They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. “Teacher,” they said, we know you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren’t swayed by men, because you pay no attention to who they are. 17 Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?” 18 But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? 19 Show me the coin used for paying the tax.” They brought him a denarius, 20 and he asked them, “Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?” 21 “Caesar’s,” they replied. Then he said to them, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” 22 When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away.

Then for added reading, if you are still with me, check this out!
https://www.christianblog.com/blog/...ders-but-not-every-leader-is-ordained-of-god/

Once you are finished brother, I would love to hear your honest response based on the scritpure given!

Ironically the Soviets and Chinese atheist governments use Romans 13 in the same way you just did. May I suggest your use is out of context?
That being said, God does ordain both the good rulers and wicked rulers to accomplish His will. Read Habakkuk 1 and see how God tells Habbakkuk that it is He who raised up the wicked Babylonian kingdom and it is He who would destroy them as well.
God tells us to live in peace as much as we can. He told the exiles to pray for the peace of the city in which they resided. We ought to do the same.
 
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