Drink

[Jerome]

EWF, how about this sermon by Reformed Baptist Dr. Peter Masters: "Filled with the Spirit"

The old life looked to alcohol which could never 'fill' the soul as the Spirit does. Should believers imbibe at all? Biblical answers presented.

Or his book Should Christians Drink? The Case for Total Abstinence:thumbs:

 

[quantumfaith]

Annsni, thank you for typing out the full paragraph.

I still don't get what point you are trying to make.

You really think there are some public places that Shorter College professors are still allowed to drink?

I am with you Jerome. Although I think the point might be that professors should not imbibe with students. I see no issue personally with professors having a drink at a local restaurant or venue, but I would frown on them drinking "with" students.

 

[quantumfaith]

The first step on the road to recovery is admitting the Vikings have a problem...:laugh:

Good one Arbo, good one. You are so witty.

 

[annsni]

I am with you Jerome. Although I think the point might be that professors should not imbibe with students. I see no issue personally with professors having a drink at a local restaurant or venue, but I would frown on them drinking "with" students.

I believe Jerome is saying that Shorter's statement prohibits all drinking in public.

 

[quantumfaith]

I believe Jerome is saying that Shorter's statement prohibits all drinking in public.

Yes, I picked up on that, I do realize it is a private institution, and they can set whatever rules they deem necessary. We are also free to express that we do not agree as well. I have a friend whose daughter just started college on scholarship at Shorter, anxious to speak with her and get a feeling for how the student population views recent changes.

I re-emphasize, I believe it is correct to discourage faculty and staff from drinking "with" students, but simply drinking anywhere a student might be present is a stretch for myself. I teach college (public). I am not about to drink "with" students, but if I choose to have a beer or glass of wine at a local restaurant, I see no problem there. Now, being inebriated is a whole different ballgame. No one, much less a believer has any business being so. In fact scripture directs otherwise.

 

[dcorbett]

Romans 14:13
Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

 

[Skandelon]

Romans 14:13
Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

Amen! We must all watch out for the stumbling block of legalism!

Is that the one you meant?

 

[annsni]

Just what IS a stumbling block? Is it anytime someone might get offended? That they feel their "sensibilities" are at stake? If we do something that someone else considers a sin even though it's not in the Bible? Just what is our definition of a stumbling block?

 

[dcorbett]

Skan, I didn't interpret it, that's up to the indwelling Holy Spirit. I posted it for some thought-provoking.

What it says to me is I shouldn't do anything that is going to cause my brother to fall. This is such a ME society that noone recalls that our testimony counts.

 

[kyredneck]

I find it of interest that one would rush in to call another who would have a beer, or enjoy wine a "drunk." Well, they also called Christ a winebibber. Nothing new under the sun.

If you're referring to my post, it was made purely in jest.

I guess I'm one of the fortunate few who were raised within a family of discreet responsible drinkers. That's the way I see the consumption of alcohol should be, discreet and responsible.

 

[preacher4truth]

If you're referring to my post, it was made purely in jest.

I guess I'm one of the fortunate few who were raised within a family of discreet responsible drinkers. That's the way I see the consumption of alcohol should be, discreet and responsible.

I agree.

It is difficult at times to detect jest within a reply, my apologies.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

EWF, how about this sermon by Reformed Baptist Dr. Peter Masters: "Filled with the Spirit"



Or his book Should Christians Drink? The Case for Total Abstinence:thumbs:

I could care less.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

The first step on the road to recovery is admitting the Vikings have a problem...:laugh:

They should stay away from the mead:thumbsup:

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

im my culture, a man sits down with another man & throws down a coupla beers & discusses stuff & there is no harm in it.....its a bonding process. Yes I have seen the poor schmo who cant hold his liquor & thats unfortunate....those people need to get help. And Ive been to many many AA meetings in support of those with problems but I will not abstain from having a beer now an again because someone else has a drinking problem... thats just insane.

Cheers!

 

[HankD]

Just for the record:

Hebrews 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?​

Genesis 14:18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.​

HankD

 

[annsni]

I could care less.

You mean you "couldn't" care less - unless you really could care less than what you care right now.

 

[annsni]

Just for the record:

Hebrews 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?​

Genesis 14:18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.​

HankD

But you KNOW this was grape juice because it couldn't mean wine.

 

[convicted1]

If you're referring to my post, it was made purely in jest.

I guess I'm one of the fortunate few who were raised within a family of discreet responsible drinkers. That's the way I see the consumption of alcohol should be, discreet and responsible.

I'll drink to that!!!!

FTR, I do drink......water, coffee, pop, kool-aid, gatorade, etc. No alcohol for me thanks, I'm driving!!!

 

[convicted1]

The reason I am for abstenance from alcohol is for witness purposes. What you do in your home is none if my businsess. This is between you and your Maker(and not Maker's Mark:laugh: ). However, in public, if someone is holding a beer in their hand, I think that the just shot their testimony in the foot. I just see no way of being a good witness with an alcoholic beverage in one's hand. But, this is MY oponion, only.

 

[Luke2427]

Who, here on the forum, considers it acceptable to drink wine or ingest some other intoxicant that is not prescribed by a doctor?

Here's another issue that falls under what I have been on a tear about lately.

Teetotalism is a NEW DOCTRINE.

It is not taught in the Scriptures.

And the Church, by and large, NEVER believed it until about 100 to 150 years ago.

That makes it problematic.

It is the kind of hermeneutic that allows teetotalism which also allows Rob Bell's universalism- except that universalism actually has longer historical roots than teetotalism.