So you believe a child or any person cannot understand God's Word when for example God says Thou shall not steal? Or thou shall not Murder or hate?
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Examining some of the misguided claims of 316 Tradionalists
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So you believe a child or any person cannot understand God's Word when for example God says Thou shall not steal? Or thou shall not Murder or hate?
God does not love everybody steaver. No matter how much you mangle, twist, warp, bend the scriptures. Proverbs 6:16-19 and Psalm 5:5 proves your ideology false.
Do you care if God leaves your child for hell? Does it bother you?
Keeping the 10 commands saved nary a soul, steaver.
First off, again, we can’t have kids. However, if we did, I would teach them to fear the Lord. I would leave the saving to Him.
Everybody is born a resident of hell, steaver. My pastor, Who is NOT a Calvinist, avers this as well. It is only by God’s grace He saves even one hell-deserving person from hell.
You always result to this. We see the attributes of God differently and we read the same Scripture with the same Holy Spirit within. Maybe it is you who is showing a hatred for the biblical God and maybe you are in no position to question or put constraints upon God....like His Love.
His love is found in Christ. Anyone outside of the Son is outside of His love, steaver.
You mean dies in Adam's sins, aborted babies don't have any of their own sins yet.
Would you teach them the tenants of Calvinism? All of them? Including God does not Love everyone?
Amen!
We are born already condemned in Adam, through no fault of our own, steaver. Babies can’t die if they’re sinless, steaver. The wages of sin is death, steaver. You’re teaching pure Pelagian teaching of tabula rasa.
I would teach them that God IS love, but this love is found solely in Christ, steaver.
Wait a minute...If God elects people from eternity past for salvation, as Calvinism teaches, then people are born either bound for Heaven or bound for Hell.
Not what I asked. You said a person cannot understand God's Word without being saved. Can they understand do not Murder, do not steal?
If God hadn’t elected some, all would go to hell.
Both. God is perfect in His mercy and Justice.
What?
You saying God is just to reject those that trust? Those people to not exist. Or do you mean that God's choice of election is not due to man's works? I agree with the 2nd. God's salvation starts with presentation and knowing people not deeds. Romans 8:29. His election is not determined by my actions. His election determines my actions (accepting Jesus).
Blatantly untrue. They just love and trust God foremost. As Scripture tells them to. And we believe Scripture when it says " ...and he does according to his will among the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand or say to him, “What have you done?”" Dan 4:35
I admit it. God's actions are not dependant on me. I have zero control or influence on Him. He is God and does according to His will, not my will. He is God, not me.
Not at all. His ways are perfect. Mine are not. His actions are flawless, mine are not. His will be done, not mine. I trust His will over mine and any other. His decrees are perfect and reflect his flawless love, justice and mercy.
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Every Calvinist I know, prays for the salvation of thier offspring. They love thier children. They teach their child the ways of the Lord. But in the end, they know it is in God's hands, not theirs.
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In 1 Corinthians 2, Paul is speaking about the gospel, and the lost can’t understand it, as 1 Corinthians 1:18 says they consider it foolishness to themselves.
Even ppl in remote areas who have never had a bible in their hand, never heard the gospel, know it’s wrong to steal, lie, commit adultery, &c, steaver.
With that answer it sounds like you would answer their questions as a politician. Never give them a direct answer. Daddy, does God love me? Well son, God is Love and His love is found solely in Christ. (Blank stare)
And you’re amen contradicts your own belief steaver.
But they know these prayers are meaningless right? According to their beliefs.
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