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"Finished work on the cross."
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Alofa Atu
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Joh_4:34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
Joh_9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.
Joh_17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
If you study this out, on "finish", you will find it goes all the way back into the OT, even with Solomon and Moses, etc.
It means, in short, or in brief, that Jesus finished the work of the courtyard (of the anti-typical Sanctuary services, as priest and sacrifice, hence veil torn from top to bottom, and there remains no more typical sacrifice for sin, as Daniel and Hebrews declare). He lived obediently unto death, working out the perfect character (as substitute and example), laying the Foundation of the true Temple (3rd) in Himself, the true Corner Stone, the Tried Stone, etc. It was the beginning completed. Most simply do not understand that.
It also ties into Creation, thus Re-Creation, the 6th day., "finished" and enters into His rest, the 7th day.
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Walpole
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Thank you for the reply. What exactly was finished at the cross? What about the courtyard was completed at Calvary?
What it is, is a reference to the sacrifice and atonement that was made by Christ. It means sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary.
Walpole
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So "It is finished" (John 19:30) refers to this?
Yep
Walpole
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But when He said, "It is finished," He had not yet died, nor rose from the dead. Is the resurrection not part of man's redemption?
--> "The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again." (Luke 24:7)
---> "Who was delivered for our offenses, and was raised again for our justification."(Romans 4:25)
---> "And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins." (1 Cor 15:17)
Given your interpretation of John 19:30, shouldn't He have said, "It is almost finished"?
No, reread what i posted
Danthemailman
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I use the phrase, "Christ's finished work of redemption." Romans 3:24 - being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
Walpole
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I did read it, which is what prompted my follow up question.
I presume you have no answer.
Have a good weekend. I’ll pick this up next week as I’m about to jump on a plane for a college football game.
Walpole
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But St. Paul would go on to say justification included Christ’s resurrection, which of course had not yet occurred when He uttered those words, “It is finished.” (He had not even died yet when He said that.)
---> "Who was delivered for our offenses, and was raised again for our justification."(Romans 4:25)
---> "And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins." (1 Cor 15:17)
Could “It is finished” be referring to something else?
I will have to pick this up another day...I’m jumping on a plane to attend a football game.
Have a good weekend.
I suppose you will presume what you have predetermined to presume.
Danthemailman
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When Christ said, "it is finished," He meant our sins were "paid in full." When I use the phrase, "finished work of redemption," I include the death, burial and resurrection of Christ.
Well I hope your team won and this is a quote on your question from John Gill:
he said, it is finished;
that is, the whole will of God; as that he should be incarnate, be exposed to shame and reproach, and suffer much, and die; the whole work his Father gave him to do, which was to preach the Gospel, work miracles, and obtain eternal salvation for his people, all which were now done, or as good as done; the whole righteousness of the law was fulfilled, an holy nature assumed, perfect obedience yielded to it, and the penalty of death endured; hence a perfect righteousness was finished agreeably to the law, which was magnified and made honourable by it, and redemption from its curse and condemnation secured; sin was made an end of, full atonement and satisfaction for it were given; complete pardon procured, peace made, and redemption from all iniquity obtained; all enemies were conquered; all types, promises, and prophecies were fulfilled, and his own course of life ended: the reason of his saying so was, because all this was near being done, just upon finishing, and was as good as done; and was sure and certain, and so complete, that nothing need, or could be added to it; and it was done entirely without the help of man, and cannot be undone; all which since has more clearly appeared by Christ's resurrection from the dead, his entrance into heaven, his session at God's right hand, the declaration of the Gospel, and the application of salvation to particular persons... Brother Glen
Alofa Atu
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That is obviously untrue. We are still here. All prophecies are not fulfilled (except the first advent), all promises are not fulfilled (New Heavens and New Earth are not yet here, the second coming has not yet occurred) and all types were not yet fulfilled as Christ had to ascend and become High Priest ...
who is not untrue? It is finished, His work as a Human is finished,
Walpole
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But when He said, "It is finished", He had not yet died, nor rose from the dead.
--> "The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again." (Luke 24:7)
Is it possible the words, "It is finished" be referring to something else?
Walpole
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Well I hope your team won and this is a quote on your question from John Gill:
he said, it is finished;
that is, the whole will of God; as that he should be incarnate, be exposed to shame and reproach, and suffer much, and die; the whole work his Father gave him to do, which was to preach the Gospel, work miracles, and obtain eternal salvation for his people, all which were now done, or as good as done; the whole righteousness of the law was fulfilled, an holy nature assumed, perfect obedience yielded to it, and the penalty of death endured; hence a perfect righteousness was finished agreeably to the law, which was magnified and made honourable by it, and redemption from its curse and condemnation secured; sin was made an end of, full atonement and satisfaction for it were given; complete pardon procured, peace made, and redemption from all iniquity obtained; all enemies were conquered; all types, promises, and prophecies were fulfilled, and his own course of life ended: the reason of his saying so was, because all this was near being done, just upon finishing, and was as good as done; and was sure and certain, and so complete, that nothing need, or could be added to it; and it was done entirely without the help of man, and cannot be undone; all which since has more clearly appeared by Christ's resurrection from the dead, his entrance into heaven, his session at God's right hand, the declaration of the Gospel, and the application of salvation to particular persons... Brother Glen
My team did win...in quite a dramatic fashion too!
Regarding your quotation above, I have put in bold and underlined the part I think does not make sense to me, given that when Christ said, "It is finished", He had not yet died nor rose from the dead.
--> "The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again." (Luke 24:7)
Could it be possible that "It is finished" refers to something else?
Walpole
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But His work as "a human" wasn't finished, as He had not yet died nor rose from the dead.