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Matt Black

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You need to quit worrying about what we do here. We fought a war and ran you out so that we did not have to follow your orders.
No, fair's fair: if you lot can be concerned about the supposed tyrannical treatment of "Poor Tommy Robinson" and our perceived "problem " with the Muzzies, we can criticise you; suck it up.
 

Matt Black

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Ya, by not having the wisdom to see it coming and making preparation. Also I support the second amendment - especially being a veteran.
More victim blaming. I suppose the Rohingyas in Burma "should have seen it coming " too. Or the Syrian and Iraqi Christian victims of Daesh - their bad, huh?
 

Matt Black

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I surfed and watched the cacophony on TV RE: The "babies ripped from their mother's arms".

Unbelievable! and I mean that literally. the left representatives are actually hysterical - well a couple of them.

shaking and almost loosing control in the debates.

I cannot discern whether they are out of control because of their passion for the children or frantic because the president keeps climbing in the polls and they are now descending publicly.

The insults for president Trump were coming forth at an unbelievable rate and manner. I could see others were actually embarrassed by the tirade(s).
Get used to it: if you commit evil and then if you go on to call evil good and egregiously cite God's Holy Word to justify it, you're going to get push back; there will be consequences. Suck it up.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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You have a clue, they want the give-away affluence of America's greatness.

Let them go to the American embassy and apply, less probable risk of death than thousands of miles of peril, and probably less cost and risk than hiring a coyote.

It's obvious Mexico doesn't want the CA illegal aliens because - well, why should they when they only need to get them to the US border and be off the hook themselves. Besides the Guatemalans are probably saying - Why should I go from the proverbial Frying Pan into the proverbial Fire by staying here in Mejico?
They have a common language, similar culture ... in short, they blend in.
 

TCassidy

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Clearly they weren't before last month and therefore there is a better more humane may of doing it.
Matt, again, your hatred for the US is causing cognitive dissonance. The law requiring the removing of children from adults while they are being vetted was signed into law by President Bill Clinton in 1997. 21 years ago is hardly "last month."
 

Matt Black

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Matt, again, your hatred for the US is causing cognitive dissonance. The law requiring the removing of children from adults while they are being vetted was signed into law by President Bill Clinton in 1997. 21 years ago is hardly "last month."
Once again, I have no hatred for the US; I hate what they are doing on this issue and what some Americans are becoming. This only became an issue last month owing to a change in policy/ implementation/ law/ call-it-what-you-want by the Trumpsters.
 

Adonia

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And what about Phil 3:20? The OT prophets crying out for justice for the poor?

Yeah, so? We still have citizenship in our respective nations. The government is a secular institution and was placed in power By God. It does it's thing, and God does His.

And what about 70 years later: have you run out of compassion? I gave that encyclical as one example. You will of course be aware that there are many others and indeed a whole corpus of Catholic social teaching documents in a similar vein.

Seventy years ago we were not 20 trillion dollars in debt. We have to dole out our compassion in a careful and financially sane manner. It is immoral what the politicians have done to our children and now grandchildren by saddling them with having to pay this enormous debt. As the Scriptures say, the borrower is slave to the lender and that is not a good thing.

Good. Now please do what you can to influence your government to behave in a similarly Christian fashion.

As I said before, I want my government first and foremost to adhere to the Constitution of the United States and I see no where in the text of that document where the people should be taxed in order to give money to foreigners no matter what the circumstance. My government continually goes above and beyond the call of duty in this regard and the time has come for them to give out LESS of my hard earned taxpayer dollars, not MORE.

Charitable giving needs to come from the free will offering of the individual Christian, not the monolithic government which gets its money through the tip of a spear.
 
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Once again, I have no hatred for the US; I hate what they are doing on this issue and what some Americans are becoming. This only became an issue last month owing to a change in policy/ implementation/ law/ call-it-what-you-want by the Trumpsters.

We have another issue in play here and that is the Democrat political party which has taken the position of caring more about foreigners than they do about the citizens their elected politicians are supposed to represent. Why is this? I will tell you that it all comes down to getting new voters in order to get back and maintain their power.

They have gone so far left that have alienated their traditional power base which consisted of the blue collar workers in this country. They need to curry favor with the newly arrived Hispanic voters that they need support from and that is why they go for such things such as sanctuary cities, drivers licenses for illegals, and even voting rights for them in local elections.

This latest hoopla by them in support of all these illegals is just one more example of this and their crocodile tears don't fool me one bit. They cry the blues for these "little children", but have absolutely no problem with slicing and dicing little babies in the womb, even up to the 9th month of gestation no less! They are fake, fake, fake, and all this reaction is designed to get just one thing - more votes.
 

HankD

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Get used to it: if you commit evil and then if you go on to call evil good and egregiously cite God's Holy Word to justify it, you're going to get push back; there will be consequences. Suck it up.
Yes get used to it Matt.
 

Matt Black

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I've done none of that and my conscience is clear before God (thanks be to Jesus!), so I'm not worried
 

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Photos documented by Reuters - 2014 "concentration camp"

Here Are The Photos Of Obama’s Illegal Immigrant Detention Facilities The Media Won’t Show You

These and many more are circulating the globe.

To be forthright these pictures brought forth tears as did those from the last week.

As individual christians we can do something to give these souls (young and old) a better life.

Pray for them and our congress for wisdom to help.

Give - I told what I do, normally I don't give out this information but there are many organizations that help the poor of this world. Do research though, some of them are not good organizations.
 
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TCassidy

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Got anything from an independent source to corroborate that?
LOL! ROFLOL! I post a video of Hillary Clinton herself calling for the sequester of illegal immigrants and their immediate deportation with accompanying photographic evidence. And a video of Chuck Shumer calling for exactly the same thing, and a video of President Obama calling for the same thing, and you think it is fake? Out of their own mouths? Videos of them saying the same things?

But I bet you fell for that fake video of Trump accosting that woman without demanding corroboration, didn't you?

LOL! ROFLOL!
 
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