Hebrews 9:27

[Yeshua1]

Clearly you are enamored with the word "malarkey." It makes me laugh as you use it to reject God's word with a passing sweep of one word.

You proved to us all that you are adding your own words to Romans 5 and then claiming your words are inspired by God. You state a theology not stated by God. It should make you shudder in fear, yet you persist in doubling down in your heresy. May God be our judge. I will stand on God's word, apart from your additions

van does seem to really be big into the Gospel of us cooperating with God to get saved to us!

 

[George Antonios]

It is my understanding that Moses was not allowed to enter the promise land due to an act of disobedience. And yet Hebrews 11:23-29, tells us that Moses was a man of great faith, which is of course, true. You have a covenant relationship with the same God as Moses, may we conclude that your obedience is greater than that of Moses?

That's good. Thanks.

 

[thomas15]

You can conclude that I am not under the Sinai Covenant as Moses and the nation of Israel was...until the death of Christ Jesus. However, both Moses and I are under the Abrahamic Covenant which promised redemption via the promised one for all nations. Thus, Moses did not physically enter the promised land because he disobeyed God, yet Moses was welcomed in to God's presence because he was justified by faith. It is noteworthy that Moses first time to stand in the promised land was at the transfiguration of Jesus on the mountain. Seeing Moses standing with Elijah and Jesus in the transfiguration we recognize that Moses was redeemed by Jesus and justified by faith...just as you and I are justified.

I would rather imagine that most of us would agree that eternity in heaven is a bigger gift than being in the land promised to Abraham.

But still...

Are you trying to say that the promise made to Abraham in the Abrahamic covenant of his seed being in the land was satisfied when Moses was transfigured? Could we conclude that since Moses was not allowed to enter the land but Joshua and Caleb were, that those two were not under the Sinai Covenant same as Moses?

 

[Van]

God knows His own, before they are even saved!

Off topic effort to change the subject...

 

[Van]

No, am a Calvinist Baptist, as none of us hold to God authoring sin!

I agree, I said you were an Open Theist...
And Salty, look at post 121 and see how they are simply repeating the same malarkey to lengthen the thread.

 

[Yeshua1]

I agree, I said you were an Open Theist...

No, as God already fully knows all things period!

 

[Van]

Clearly you are enamored with the word "malarkey." It makes me laugh as you use it to reject God's word with a passing sweep of one word.

You proved to us all that you are adding your own words to Romans 5 and then claiming your words are inspired by God. You state a theology not stated by God. It should make you shudder in fear, yet you persist in doubling down in your heresy. May God be our judge. I will stand on God's word, apart from your additions

Second material false statement.
Will be are God's words...

 

[MB]

Of course there is. You just reject it. You've been shown the scripture over and over again here at the BB and you argue against it.

This is not true what you think supports your view just does not say what you claim it does. And you have never proven any of your Calvinism.
MB

 

[Van]

Six hour warning

This thread will be closed no sooner than 6 PM EDT / 3 PM PDT

Once again the Calvinists have posted non-stop malarkey to reach the length needed to close the thread.

 

[Yeshua1]

Once again the Calvinists have posted non-stop malarkey to reach the length needed to close the thread.

No, we have posted bible truth that just gets Malarkey from you!

 

[MB]

Your bible does not state that we in opur fallen natures are at war against God and in active rebellion against Him!

Am I suppose to take your word. Before Salvation we are all in rebellion, the war is not yet.
MB

 

[Yeshua1]

Am I suppose to take your word. Before Salvation we are all in rebellion, the war is not yet.
MB

We have peace and reconciliation with God thru Lord Jesus , but our sim natures still want to rebel!

 

[MB]

Hebrews 9:27 states: And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


So - if a man does something stupid - could his life be shortened by his own actions.

If a person has been walking very close to the Lord - could his life be extended by the Lord?

Mat_19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
MB

 

[Van]

No, we have posted bible truth that just gets Malarkey from you!

Endless claims of past glory are the stock and trade of false teachers. Calvinism has been shown to be malarkey...

 

[Van]

I am pretty sure all Calvinists lean toward exhaustive determinism, God's knowledge of the future fixes the future and no other outcome is possible. However, that view is malarkey.

What the verse seems to me to be saying is there are no second chances for salvation after we physically die. Judgment is swift and sure, and the lost are condemned already. John 3:18.

OTOH, God is the God of continuing chances as long as we live, therefore repent and believe.

 

[MB]

We have peace and reconciliation with God thru Lord Jesus , but our sim natures still want to rebel!

This I believe is because our flesh has not been regenerated, and won't be until after we die.
MB

 

[canadyjd]

Mat_19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
MB

Which answered the question from the disciples, “who then can be saved?”

Jesus answered with men it is impossible, but with God, all things are possible.

The question was direct. The answer was direct.

It is impossible for men to be saved unless God intervenes in their lives.

Now all you have to consider is whether God intervenes in every person’s life, or just some people’s life, to bring them to salvation.

peace to you

 

[MB]

Which answered the question from the disciples, “who then can be saved?”

Jesus answered with men it is impossible, but with God, all things are possible.

The question was direct. The answer was direct.

It is impossible for men to be saved unless God intervenes in their lives.

Now all you have to consider is whether God intervenes in every person’s life, or just some people’s life, to bring them to salvation.

peace to you

God intervenes in every ones lives by invitation.
Mat_11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
MB

 

[canadyjd]

God intervenes in every ones lives by invitation.
Mat_11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
MB

Well, based on that verse, only those who “labour and are heaven laden” get an invitation of rest, not everyone.

peace to you

 

[MB]

Well, based on that verse, only those who “labour and are heaven laden” get an invitation of rest, not everyone.

peace to you

Well maybe you have a verse that says there are those whom Jesus has not drawn to Him self. When His word says He draws all men to Him self. The thing that bothers me is when Calvinist read the Bible they always assume what isn't there.. Can you prove God doesn't draw everyone?. No you can't . Can you prove Jesus doesn't Love the whole world? No you can't. Yet against scripture you still make false claims. and insisting that your claims are more accurate
MB