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Hell
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Shakesphere once commented that Hell is empty and that the devils are all here
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Thanks for that.
I happen to agree with ole Bill. Even after we are supposedly converted and surrender our lives over to Christ we still sin... and sin still permiates the earth.
I agree with that.
Sin on the earth is not hell
Would you not agree that we are already making our own hell or heaven based on what we do here?
OK. You've got your responses. Now put up or shut up.
BobRyan
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Good point. For example Matthew 10:28 makes the case that BOTH body AND soul are destroyed in fiery hell.
Uh no, no foundation in scripture and sounds very new agish
BobRyan
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True. Rev 20 describes the fire-and-brimstone event John calls "the lake of fire" and all other writers call hell.. it is a supernatural event where all the wicked suffer for their sins and are "destroyed both body and soul" Matt 10:28
But you could hang out with extreme far left Rob Bell.
That is so far off as to be heretical.
There is nothing you or I could do here - cure cancer, live a life of peace and love and joy, give money to the poor, read the Bible 4 hours everyday, or help the homeless, bereaved, or abused - that could make our lives here on this earth our own personal heaven. The idea that WE could make heaven what it is shocking to me that one would profess that.
The Bible says that no one knows what God has in store for those who love him. GOD will make the new heaven and the new earth what it will be and no one alive today could imagine it.
There is nothing you or I could do here - abort babies, sell drugs, abuse others, rob every bank in town, or deceive people out of their life's savings - that could make this place our own personal hell. We do not make hell, hell. God has prepared hell for the devil and his angels. Jesus said that humans will perish there, too.
No one alive today - even those who suffer more than we could understand - knows now the true sufferings of what hell will be for the lost.
God is in control of it all - both heaven and hell. Not us.
You can be a saint and still have health problems, cancer, cerebral palsy, suffer from loss of work, a disability, starvation, homeless etc . The list is endless and it includes being robbed, raped, taken advantage of. For every good and charitable man there is a thousand or more who would steal your hearts blood if they could sell it for a profit and ten thousand who would sell your coat too for some money. Largely it’s a world of eat or be eaten, your money or your life. Thieves and liars, murderers & grifters. All men are more or less Judas, I repeat, more or less. So if this place isn’t hell then it certainly is it’s vestibule.
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It doesn't make any such case at all. It says that we should fear him who is able to destroy the body and soul, not that the body and soul are destroyed.
Not to mention the question of what "destroy" means in that context.
I am not espousing "annihilism", as you will soon see. And if I get banned for posting what the scripture literally says, then so be it. It would just prove I'm more Baptist than some.
I wonder when people will learn not to challenge me. I don't say things if I can't back it up.
Did you not ever read that we will be judged (not justified) by our works? It's in the Bible.
And I was wondering how long it would be before someone would trot out the heresy charge.