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Hermeneutical Principle in Interpreting Scripture

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Reformed, Sep 18, 2017.

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    This is incoherent
     
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    The son of the parable was never spiritually lost, so not an example of a lost sinner coming to God, but of a backslidden Christian coming back to God!
     
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    Which has nothing to do with "have the capability to freely save ourselves!"
     
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    Luk 15:24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found.’ And they began to celebrate.
     
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    Those holding to that view do see the ultimate basis of why saved being their own choice, and not God will, correct?
     
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    Hr never though ceased to be the fathers son. correct?
     
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    which if indeed are attributes of God are of necessity good things correct?

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    Humans are still a special creation of God, its just that we no longer have the means within us to come to God on our own, to trust in Him by ourselves, as our fallen sin natures are now enemies of God!
     
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    Nope, the ultimate reason is Jesus died on the cross.
     
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    No but you are taking that parable to far.
     
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    And again, the basic choices here are that God alone saved us, or that we co assisted Him to save us!
     
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    How so?
     
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    No it's not. God chose to give us a choice. His plan, His design for salvation. He didn't have to do it that way but He did. If He designed that plan then your point is moot and really rather sophomoric.
     
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    You say we are enemies of God, Does that mean all mankind is unholy and unclean?
     
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    God never did save us based upon us choosing Him first though, as sinners cannot do that anymore, since the Fall!
     
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    ALL who are not found in Christ are sinners and thus impure, correct?
     
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    Whatever you say, lets say yes, does that mean all mankind is unholy and unclean?
     
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    In the spiritual sense, Yes, all of those not now saved in Christ!
     
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    Why would God show Peter not to call any man unholy or unclean?

    Acts 10

    28And he said to them, “You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a man who is a Jew to associate with a foreigner or to visit him; and yet God has shown me that I should not call any man unholy or unclean.


    Acts 10
    34Opening his mouth, Peter said:
    “I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality,
     
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