How fat does a person have to be to be a sinner?

[Rachel]

FBCPastorsWife, I'm very sorry to hear what you've gone through. That's terrible. I hope your health is much better now.

God bless you,
Rachel

 

[donnA]

Originally posted by Paul33:
Most people are fat because they eat too much of the wrong kind of food.

It IS that simple.

Thats your opinion, which is not backed up with true medical facts.

 

[dh1948]

How about the weight of a newly fertilized egg? "In sin did my mother conceive me." -- King David

 

[FBCPastorsWife]

Thank you Rachel! I am off of one of my high blood pressure meds due to my recent weight loss. Now I am only on two BP meds, 3 anti-rejection (one of which I got to reduce by one mg twice a day), and of course I take my vitamins. It's a day to day struggle but my agenda is to get off of all the BP meds so that my kidney will last longer.

 

[donnA]

FBC, I'm sorry to hear about all that, the faccts are those conditions cause weight gain. And it has nothing to to do with food. Some people are ignorant of facts and make judgements based on nothing of any real value. which it too bad,, I think people need to be as educated as possible, especially on topics they are going to be posting.

If ignorance is bliss, some people are estatic.

 

[FBCPastorsWife]

Originally posted by donnA:
If ignorance is bliss, some people are estatic.

 

[gb93433]

Originally posted by donnA:
Your statement is not true.
Diane's husband gained some weight (I don't know how much I don't think she said) and appears over weight, but it was caused by medications.
Unless your a doctor or you have personal expereince to prove that then it continues to be untrue.

It doesn't take a doctor to prove that if your calorie input exceeds your output you must lose weight. Nobody can gain weight with zero caloric intake.

 

[gb93433]

Originally posted by Paul33:
Most people are fat because they eat too much of the wrong kind of food.

It IS that simple.

Ever seen a fat athlete who ran the marathon in the Olympics?

 

[gb93433]

Lots of doctors are overmedicating their patients. My grandmother was one. She started having all kinds of ailments. Finally her son took her to see his doctor and he took her off almost all of the meds she was taking. She became normal again and regained much of the strength and activity she had years earlier.

Americans are great for overmedicating themselves.

Several years ago my sister's father in law lost a bunch of weight and ended his ailments and returned to be a normal man not taking any medications.

 

[TexasSky]

FBC -

Thank you for speaking up, and Donna thank you for posting the facts.

I have a cousin who, most of my life, couldn't gain weight. She was tiny, and had a super fast metabolism. A car accident a few years ago required a lot of medications for various problems following the accident. Now she is technically obese, and she hates herself.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Originally posted by gb93433:
It doesn't take a doctor to prove that if your calorie input exceeds your output you must lose weight. Nobody can gain weight with zero caloric intake.

Right on. That isn't a judgemental statement. It is a true one. There may be several medical conditions that cause weight retention, but none that, in and of themselves, cause weight gain.

 

[TexasSky]

Curtis,

You are making a false statement when you say "There may be several medical conditions that cause weight retention, but none that, in and of themselves, cause weight gain."

There are several that cause weight gain, and there are medications for various medical conditions that cause weight gain. In fact, MANY medications list "weight gain" as a side affect.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

A mistake many people make is to stop eating. This is very unhealthy, and unfeasable. You need to eat. If you starve yourself, then gorge, your body will store the fat.

Eat some carrots and an apple, with maybe a peice of toast & jam for breakfast. They may not taste as good as bacon, but you do get used to it.

I love bacon cheeseburgers. The best time to have one is lunch time. You still have plenty of active time left in the day.

Eat a sensible dinner. Always have raw vegetables in all your meals.

Snack on pears, peaches, raw snowpeas...etc. There is no reason to keep cookies & ice cream around. Sugar snacks are troublesome foods.

Drink more than the USRDA of water. Drink water all the time. Drink water when it's the last thing you want to do.

PRAY for strength. Ask others to pray for you.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Originally posted by TexasSky:
Curtis,

You are making a false statement when you say "There may be several medical conditions that cause weight retention, but none that, in and of themselves, cause weight gain."

There are several that cause weight gain, and there are medications for various medical conditions that cause weight gain. In fact, MANY medications list "weight gain" as a side affect.

It is impossible to gain weight without caloric intake.

 

[TexasSky]

It is impossible to eat without caloric intake.

And "weight" is not "calory intake".
Your statement shows a significant lack of medical knowledge.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I think I know what I'm talking about. You can eat twinkies, or apples. Which one should a person on your medication take ?

Weight, for the person who cannot exercise, does indeed reflect calorie intake.

 

[donnA]

Originally posted by gb93433:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by donnA:
Your statement is not true.
Diane's husband gained some weight (I don't know how much I don't think she said) and appears over weight, but it was caused by medications.
Unless your a doctor or you have personal expereince to prove that then it continues to be untrue.

It doesn't take a doctor to prove that if your calorie input exceeds your output you must lose weight. Nobody can gain weight with zero caloric intake. </font>[/QUOTE]And how do you achieve zero calorie intake? All foods have calories. A person would have to stop eating.
I've proven, with real medical facts, that weigth gain isn't always from over eating 100% of the time.
You absoutly can not judge people by looks.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

And before it gets said, I should correct it to say "the afforementioned medication", instead of "your medication".

And why concentrate on me, when others here have said the same thing ?

 

[donnA]

Originally posted by gb93433:
Lots of doctors are overmedicating their patients. My grandmother was one. She started having all kinds of ailments. Finally her son took her to see his doctor and he took her off almost all of the meds she was taking. She became normal again and regained much of the strength and activity she had years earlier.

Americans are great for overmedicating themselves.

Several years ago my sister's father in law lost a bunch of weight and ended his ailments and returned to be a normal man not taking any medications.

the medications I listed were for things like, hypothyroidism, cancer.
Which of these aren't needed?
I take medications for blood pressure, cholesterol, hypothyroidism, diabetes.
Which of these are not needed? Which of these is over medication?
Anyone of these can kill me.

 

[donnA]

Originally posted by Bro. Curtis:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by gb93433:
It doesn't take a doctor to prove that if your calorie input exceeds your output you must lose weight. Nobody can gain weight with zero caloric intake.

Right on. That isn't a judgemental statement. It is a true one. There may be several medical conditions that cause weight retention, but none that, in and of themselves, cause weight gain. </font>[/QUOTE]Not true, says medical science. I found and posted many and the links, of which there were many to choose from on each disease.
People need to learn facts.
But truth isn't always welcomed.