Faith enabling us to believe is from God. It is our free will to exercise that faith correctly
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How Free Will Turns the Gospel into Law and Grace into Works.
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1689Dave
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“For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” Philippians 2:13 (KJV 1900) Let's give God the glory for anything we get right.
1689Dave
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God reckons faith as righteousness. He reckons Adam's sin ans ours. He reckons Christ's righteousness as ours. But salvation is of the Lord, not of us.
Exactly. Thus, it doesn't matter if we partake in faith of our own volition. It's the reckoning of that faith the earns the glory. We believe, He reckons, He gets all the glory.
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1689Dave
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“For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.” Romans 4:3–4 (KJV 1900)
Free will turns the gospel into law and makes God owe you salvation. And that type of faith is reckoned as debt.
Only when one conflates faith and reckoning. That is your error. You don't know the difference between the two. I don't see your mind changing now, that takes time, but I at least know where you've erred.
No, our RIGHTEOUSNESS is as filthy rags
You are a misquoting Isaiah 64:6. Not surprising in the least.
1689Dave
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If you think we save ourselves by forcing our flesh to believe in a Christ we can't even discern, our faith is reckoned as filthy rags.
No it does't
You've said this about 10 times in this thread and the thread title.
I guess if you keep on saying this, you think it will become truth. It doesn't work that way.
1689Dave
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= "correct" choices too.
1689Dave
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If salvation is conditional, the gospel is law, not grace.
1689Dave
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You tell me what you think #4 means.
Repeated this phrase eleven times. Still light years away from truth.
1689Dave
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A law is a law. And if you make the gospel conditional, you make it into a law.
It's in my signature. #4 means you presented a strawman argument. You incorrectly stated Calminian's beliefs when you said,
"If you think we save ourselves by forcing our flesh to believe in a Christ"
That's a #4, a strawman argument.
Then you said:
"our faith is reckoned as filthy rags."
That's a #1, the word in that verse actually means something else.
You are taking the word righteousness in Isaiah 64:6 and saying it means "our faith". That's a #1.
Twelve times.
1689Dave
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Free will cannot exist without law and law cannot exist without free will. Free will makes the gospel law as long at it is present in anyone's thinking.
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