Except that would be when Dispy/Calvinism/et all would get labeled as being heresy, which they are not!
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How then do we really define heresy?
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At least Lutheran thought divides things into heresy and heterodox teaching. Heresy makes one anathema while heterodox merely excludes you from communion and teaching/preaching in the denomination.
The issue is we cannot make someone anathema to Christ (we may consider people accursed for their understanding but can only make this determination on behalf of our group and understanding (not for God). He can make them stand.
Do you Calvinists consider Arminians heretics?
No, just confused, as they are saved by the same process we describe it as being, but are just not seeing it in that way!
I think you may want to reexamine the Canons of Dort.
I hold to the scriptures though as my inspired and final source of authority!
Then this is a very touchy and difficult subject. I'll admit that I err on the side of caution. To me, on whether to exclude or rebuke others, what matters is clear, scriptural teaching and the character of the person I talk to. I am of the mind scripture isn't clear on a variety of theological subjects in such a way to force separation.
What authority do you claim to have? When you Quote scripture it rarely has anything to do with the answer. I suspect because you do not read scripture through.
MB
Your right it does. In fact Christ brought division not unity
Luk_12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
MB
Those who teach aberrant theology such as in Word of Faith by their doctrines and pronouncements brand themselves as being heretics...
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I use the Ecumenical Creeds including the Council of Ephesus in 431 as a rule of thumb. This covers everything from denying Christ's divinity and the Trinity. And considers free will and Premillennialism as heresy. Not popular but that's where I draw the line. I also avoid paedobaptists as a fringe element.
Well Gentiles never got election for them selves from scripture.
MB
NEVER use anything other than the Bible itself when deciding what is a heresy!
I am thinking that those guys fall short on standard doctrinal matters as well as the name it & claim it stuff. I never could stand to listen to any of them.
Most denominations have doctrinal statements that are sound but they do not teach what they believe or why they believe it. Therefore the cults are the unpaid bills of the church.
It was part of the tribulation on the church which is the tribulation in Revelaion. Some estimates of the deaths by the RCC at up to 500 million christians. The minimum deaths is 50-100 million which is on Christians, which is what Revelation says. Muslims were mostly on others.
Maybe you can show scripture that proves that. Just like the rest of what you've posted does not prove election for Gentiles at all. There are no elect Gentiles.
MB
How do they calculate the RCC as responsible for twice as many desths as Islam, charged with 240 million deaths the last 1400 years?
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