Iceland's chief Epidemiologist admits vaccines dont work to stop covid spread

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Stick around @Reynolds and me. At least we can teach all y'all yankees how to talk...and make a decent pitcher if sweet tea.

Youse guys will never take yankee principles out of me... my grandfathers worked in mines all their lives to put food on the table, father was a machinist who became a master electrician. Each had a hard work ethic, each was a Christian, each raised me to work, study to go further. New Jersey & Pennsylvania was always my home because of this work ethic and I’m hard pressed to leave it. You people got your own pride I’m sure but you don’t get to convert my family... even if we live in Snaky Land FL.

 

[JonC]

You do know that what you said is dancing all around the definition of trolling.

If so, then your comments could as well.

The difference is I have engaged the OP. The person in question in the article had a point entirely the opposite of the OP (the propaganda in the OP is dishonest).

The article tells us the rates you wondered about. It defends not only the vaccine but the idea of vaccinating children.

 

[JonC]

Youse guys will never take yankee principles out of me... my grandfathers worked in mines all their lives to put food on the table, father was a machinist who became a master electrician. Each had a hard work ethic, each was a Christian, each raised me to work, study to go further. New Jersey & Pennsylvania was always my home because of this work ethic and I’m hard pressed to leave it. You people got your own pride I’m sure but you don’t get to convert my family... even if we live in Snaky Land FL.

Too late. You're a convert by virtue of living in FL. New Jersey folk are supposed to be cold in the winter.

 

[JonC]

In your face dialogue is only supposed to be from NY & NJ.... well done and welcome aboard

Now you need to move to Florida... where you are assured of catching COVID & testing out your ‘less severe’ theory.

We have covid increasing here as well.

 

[Wingman68]

We have covid increasing here as well.

How do you know that?


Maybe symptoms of the shot, or shot shedding on us poor unvaxxed.

 

[JonC]

Bingo...a lie hoisted on the public.Many of them still think that after the shots.... well they are now immune.

No. The vaccine (per the CDC and the pharmaceutical companies) were never thought to provide sterilising immunity (most vaccines don't). That this is the expectation is just an anti-vax (sometimes a pro-vax) lie that lazy sheeple believed.

 

[JonC]

How do you know that?
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Maybe symptoms of the shot, or shot shedding on us poor unvaxxed.

"Fake news" alert. PCR tests can distinguish between the flu and covid. The difference is not the type of test (PCR) but the test itself (nuclic acid found only in covid....the primers).

The covid test cannot detect any other virus, including the flu.

Kinda proving my point that many anti-vaxers are basing their decisions on lies and misinformation.

 

[Wingman68]

Jon jumps out to call bad anti vaxxers (his term for anyone that disagrees with him) liars. Time will be required to come to the truth, so don’t claim what you don’t own.

Video: CDC Says PCR Tests Can’t Differentiate Between Coronaviruses! The Cold & COVID Are Synonymous!

 

[JonC]

Jon jumps out to call bad anti vaxxers (his term for anyone that disagrees with him) liars. Time will be required to come to the truth, so don’t claim what you don’t own.

Video: CDC Says PCR Tests Can’t Differentiate Between Coronaviruses! The Cold & COVID Are Synonymous!

No. Not all anti- vaxers or pro-vaxers are liars. But the post you put out is an anti-vax lie intended to mislead people into joining their camp.

Most who got a vaccine don't care about the debate. We feel sorry for the anti-vaxers who die of covid because they were misked - but let's face it, most on both sides won't die.

You are mixing this:

Labs

With this:

COVID-19 and Your Health



CDC encourages use of new tests that detect both COVID-19 and the flu

Fact check: CDC test doesn't conflate COVID-19 virus with influenza

The question is if you are lying or just that much assimilated.

 

[Reynolds]

No. The vaccine (per the CDC and the pharmaceutical companies) were never thought to provide sterilising immunity (most vaccines don't). That this is the expectation is just an anti-vax (sometimes a pro-vax) lie that lazy sheeple believed.

Actually Faucci and Biden said it did, before Faucci said it didn't.

 

[JonC]

Actually Faucci and Biden said it did, before Faucci said it didn't.

I do not trust either, so I really have not listened to either.

I just know....from High School biology...that vaccines typically do not keep people from getting sick. This is because, while not the best student, I listened enough (apparently more than many).

 

[Wingman68]

This is how the media, & leftist minions construct a narrative:



They are lazy, but obedient. I had a montage of all the different ‘news’ outlets reporting, verbatim, the same sentence in their live broadcasts. I didn’t save it, but I remember when I shared it here, some of the usual suspects saw NO PROBLEM with that.

 

[JonC]

This is how the media, & leftist minions construct a narrative:

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They are lazy, but obedient. I had a montage of all the different ‘news’ outlets reporting, verbatim, the same sentence in their live broadcasts. I didn’t save it, but I remember when I shared it here, some of the usual suspects saw NO PROBLEM with that.

Both sides (pro-vax and anti-vax) are pretty stupid. They are just sheeple following their leaders.

If the pro-vax leaders said anal suppositories given 3x a day would prevent covid there would be a rush at Walgreens.

If the anti-vax leaders said oxygen is produced by the government to sterilize citizens they'd put their heads in plastic bags.

Both sides are nuts. They believe anything their side feeds them.

 

[dad2]

I do not understand exactly what you are getting at.

I am perhaps, like @Reynolds said, a "smart tail", BUT I'm an honest "smart tail" (I may not always be correct, but I will speak honestly).

And I took the shot.

It was definitely not a mistake.

I'll also get the flu shot (probably this Friday at the VA).

It was not a mistake because I knew the possible side effects. I also knew the risks of not being vaccinated. And I made a choice concerning my own health.

Many who do not get the vaccine are also not making a mistake. They weigh the risks of the vaccine against the risks of covid and make their choice.

Why is the majority of people in several areas dying and getting sick those who got the shots then? That seems to scream out that it is useless at best. You do know that there is no vaccine for the common cold? Why? I think it is because it changes all the time, no? How is the variants of covid any different?

 

[dad2]

Bingo...a lie hoisted on the public.Many of them still think that after the shots.... well they are now immune.

Yet there is talk of endless new shots that are and will be needed. I heard one commentator suggest that a better strategy would be to treat the disease rather than try to make endless vaccines for the new variants. Yet we see a suppression of news and people who advocate various tried and tested treatments and no big effort to find new ones. Then there is the issue of vested interests and conflict of interests. Do some of these people pushing for vaccines have something to gain? Are they invested in any way in companies that stand to benefit from the vaccine or lockdowns etc? Apparently this is the case.

 

[dad2]

Both sides (pro-vax and anti-vax) are pretty stupid. They are just sheeple following their leaders.

If the pro-vax leaders said anal suppositories given 3x a day would prevent covid there would be a rush at Walgreens.

If the anti-vax leaders said oxygen is produced by the government to sterilize citizens they'd put their heads in plastic bags.

Both sides are nuts. They believe anything their side feeds them.

If you are on one side and you say both sides are nuts where does that leave you?

 

[JonC]

Why is the majority of people in several areas dying and getting sick those who got the shots then? That seems to scream out that it is useless at best. You do know that there is no vaccine for the common cold? Why? I think it is because it changes all the time, no? How is the variants of covid any different?

Two reasons-

1. Because the anti-vaxers do not want to count the unvacvinated covid cases as covid cases.

2. The large majority are vaccinated

The anti-vax people are stupid. I did the same thing to see if they would notice (in the CSRA over 90% of the seriously ill are unvacvinated.....what I did not say is that only 35% are vaccinated).

It is simple data manipulation.

 

[JonC]

If you are on one side and you say both sides are nuts where does that leave you?

I'm not on either side (I thought I made that very clear). I got the vaccine but I neither advocate or discourage covid vaccinations.

I just get tired of the kids, and at this time they are mostly from the anti-vax camp (at least on the BB).

 

[dad2]

Two reasons-

1. Because the anti-vaxers do not want to count the unvacvinated covid cases as covid cases.

The unvaxxers are the ones doing the stats now!? Ha

2. The large majority are vaccinated

The anti-vax people are stupid. I did the same thing to see if they would notice (in the CSRA over 90% of the seriously ill are unvacvinated.....what I did not say is that only 35% are vaccinated).

It is simple data manipulation.

I do not believe anything those liars say. Not a thing, and in fact if they say something my automatic response is to assume the opposite may be true. They are fired! We have already seen the suppression of other voices. That alone kills any and everything they promote and claim! We have seen that treatments are swept under the rug. That sets off warning bells of possible vested interests and collusion. We have see the ever changing claims on masks and rules and how these were applied for example in closing down God's people trying to meet. We have seen that murdered babies are very much a part of what was used to get a vaccine if in no other way that the research basis and history. We are seeing cruise ships getting sick again, only this time the numbers are hidden! All the crew and passengers were stuck with the needles. The same thing is true in various places where we see that the vaccinated are getting sick and dying of the disease the jab was supposed to protect them from. The whole treatment is an experiment anyhow and was never tested properly, and the drug pushers that sell the vaccines were given immunity from legal remedies!

 

[dad2]

I'm not on either side (I thought I made that very clear). I got the vaccine but I neither advocate or discourage covid vaccinations.

I just get tired of the kids, and at this time they are mostly from the anti-vax camp (at least on the BB).

You coulda fooled me! You appear to defend the whole program vehemently. Your actions speak louder than your words.