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Iceland's chief Epidemiologist admits vaccines dont work to stop covid spread

JonC

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I do know. I look at mainstream news now and then. They are like the little echoes of hell. The bias is not hidden.
I agree but the bias goes both ways. If the government was to say poison kills far too many would start posting that poison is safe.
 

Reynolds

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I agree but the bias goes both ways. If the government was to say poison kills far too many would start posting that poison is safe.
I doubt it, but if the Govt said that Ricin kills so you all must wear a mask and gloves all the time, there would be pushback.
 

JonC

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I doubt it, but if the Govt said that Ricin kills so you all must wear a mask and gloves all the time, there would be pushback.
I don't (although my example was extreme).
Rebellion from authority is in our nature.

To put it on context, if the government provided accurate information about the covid vaccine many would reject the information because it came from the government. This is especially true when the government holds opposing politics.

If President Biden offered accurate information many here would reject it based on their dislike for the Biden Administration. We saw this with the Democrats rejecting the "Trump vaccines" only to accept the vaccines under the Biden Administration.
 

Reynolds

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I don't (although my example was extreme).
Rebellion from authority is in our nature.

To put it on context, if the government provided accurate information about the covid vaccine many would reject the information because it came from the government. This is especially true when the government holds opposing politics.

If President Biden offered accurate information many here would reject it based on their dislike for the Biden Administration. We saw this with the Democrats rejecting the "Trump vaccines" only to accept the vaccines under the Biden Administration.
That all falls under "you can't believe a liar even when he tells the truth." You can throw all the wacky theories out and just the documented cases of our govt telling lies are astronomical. It's pretty much their own fault.
We have the entire alien/UFO area 51 nutty mess because the Govt decided it would run a misinformation campaign to try to hide the identity of a crashed x plane. Why? The Soviets knew we tested x planes at area 51. They knew X planes could crash and they already had Titanium. Why the big lies?
 

JonC

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That all falls under "you can't believe a liar even when he tells the truth." You can throw all the wacky theories out and just the documented cases of our govt telling lies are astronomical. It's pretty much their own fault.
We have the entire alien/UFO area 51 nutty mess because the Govt decided it would run a misinformation campaign to try to hide the identity of a crashed x plane. Why? The Soviets knew we tested x planes at area 51. They knew X planes could crash and they already had Titanium. Why the big lies?
It is their own fault, I agree. But this does not change the fact that people will dismiss the truth and believe the misinformation if the truth comes from what they consider untrustworthy sources.

The boy who cried wolf was telling the truth that last time. People's disbelief had no bearing on the wolf's actual presence. We can understand why they rejected that truth - and perhaps their decision was justified - but in the end what they rejected was true.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Here is a list of the real fact sheets (including the side-effects ...which can be very serious), the trials, and ingredients.

This is what the anti-vax people do not want you to see - not because it is pro-vax (they list really bad possible side effects and cautions with the vaccine) but because it exposes their conspiracies.

IF you want real information then it is here. Read it and make a decision on your own health.

My advice is to weigh the risks of covid against the risks of the vaccine and the benefits of the vaccine (which are largely unknown at this time). Keep in mind these are not FDA approved.

Be informed. Stay away from the conspiracy theorists on the BB (they only care about politicizing the virus, not about facts). Don't rely on pro-vax or anti-vax fools. They are evil.

Read the facts yourself and make an informed decision. Regardless of what you decide, and the outcome of that decision, it is the best you can do for your health given accurate information.

God is in control, but we are not called to be fools.
Hmmm. Looked at the first one. According to their website, such data seems intended for Healthcare Professionals only and by country only.

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine | cvdvaccine.com
 

dad2

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I agree but the bias goes both ways. If the government was to say poison kills far too many would start posting that poison is safe.
The default position should be distrust. When we deal with people with openly Satanic agendas such as Canada and the US regimes now have, how would the default be anything else?
 

Wingman68

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The ex-Pfizer exec says all formulas listed are not complete, because they are allowed secret ingredients, so competitors will not ever have the complete, original formula. She says, graphene oxide is definitely in their formula. And, oh by the way…….
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Scott Downey

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Denmark Abolishes All Corona Measures – Freedom First Network
Denmark is lifting ALL covid measures. Will no longer rely on vaccines to stop the spread and achieve herd immunity, because they can't do any of that!
They are finally admitting the truth.
The vaccines don't work to stop the spread of covid and achieve herd immunity, just like from my first post stated. And from now on, Covid will be regarded as the FLU.

Danish parliament recently decided in Copenhagen that all Corona measures should be ended from October 1. There will therefore no longer be a mask requirement and the test regime will be abolished. The Danes will then no longer have to provide evidence of whether they are vaccinated or unvaccinated, or whether they have tested positive or negative.

Denmark’s SSI infectious diseases agency said it no longer relied on vaccination to achieve herd immunity in the country. Tyra Grove Krause, the SSI’s acting academic director, said a new wave of infections were expected after people return to work and school at the end of this summer, but it should not be cause for alarm. “It will be more reminiscent of the flu,” Krause said.

Overall, the current vaccination rate is just under 58,4 percent of fully vaccinated people in Denmark.
 

JonC

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Hmmm. Looked at the first one. According to their website, such data seems intended for Healthcare Professionals only and by country only.

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine | cvdvaccine.com
It does indicate use in the US is under the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). So that particular information sheet may be designed for the US.

Much of it is for health care providers, but if you continue you will also see the instructions for the patient and instructions to review posdibke side effects with the patient / give a copy to the patient.
 

JonC

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The ex-Pfizer exec says all formulas listed are not complete, because they are allowed secret ingredients, so competitors will not ever have the complete, original formula. She says, graphene oxide is definitely in their formula. And, oh by the way…….
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Yea....and they makes Wendy's burgers with earth worms.

The "ex" part is suspicious.
 

JonC

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The default position should be distrust. When we deal with people with openly Satanic agendas such as Canada and the US regimes now have, how would the default be anything else?
I disagree. The default position should be indecisiveness.
 

dad2

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Then you must not consider the things that the government these days push as evil. Otherwise, for example if someone honoured God's natural marriage and sexual guidance, or believed God sends babies, etc. there could be no indecision or fence siting involved.
We would not sit there in limbo wondering if directly anti God and anti family and anti nature and anti bible statements and programs were good or bad in some sort of state of dazed indecision.
 

JonC

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Then you must not consider the things that the government these days push as evil. Otherwise, for example if someone honoured God's natural marriage and sexual guidance, or believed God sends babies, etc. there could be no indecision or fence siting involved.
We would not sit there in limbo wondering if directly anti God and anti family and anti nature and anti bible statements and programs were good or bad in some sort of state of dazed indecision.
Not all things. The government provides security and containment for legacy nuclear materials. That is a good thing. The government provides for roads (state and federal). Roads are good. The government provides power plant that generate electricity. I like both my lights and air conditioning.

Unless you live without electricity, without transportation (to include using roads), without medical technology, without a mail service, without FDA regulated food and medicine, never fly on an airplane, never travel by ocean or river, avoid most lakes, etc. then you have no room to talk.

How is electricity evil?

How are roads evil (except the "highway to Hell", of course...then again, it's not the path but the people on it).

How is medicine evil?
 

dad2

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Not all things. The government provides security and containment for legacy nuclear materials. That is a good thing. The government provides for roads (state and federal). Roads are good. The government provides power plant that generate electricity. I like both my lights and air conditioning.

Unless you live without electricity, without transportation (to include using roads), without medical technology, without a mail service, without FDA regulated food and medicine, never fly on an airplane, never travel by ocean or river, avoid most lakes, etc. then you have no room to talk.

How is electricity evil?

How are roads evil (except the "highway to Hell", of course...then again, it's not the path but the people on it).

How is medicine evil?
The basic stuff they do is why God probably has allowed them to exist this long. Personally I do not see how WOMD provides anyone security. The medical arm of government is responsible for the mass murder of babies, the procedures that are used on kids and others to 'change sex' and other things. I do not consider it neutral. I would decisively be suspect of anything they say. So it is not the basic infrastructure and services that is evil, but as I said their agenda which is Satanic. I would think that Sodom had roads and walkways and various services also. That would not be why God wiped them off the face of the planet.
 

JonC

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The basic stuff they do is why God probably has allowed them to exist this long. Personally I do not see how WOMD provides anyone security. The medical arm of government is responsible for the mass murder of babies, the procedures that are used on kids and others to 'change sex' and other things. I do not consider it neutral. I would decisively be suspect of anything they say. So it is not the basic infrastructure and services that is evil, but as I said their agenda which is Satanic. I would think that Sodom had roads and walkways and various services also. That would not be why God wiped them off the face of the planet.
These are secular powers (they are by definition the "World").

You are asking a question posed in Revelation. The answer is simply "it is not time".

God's time is not always our time.

That said, throughout history God has used secular governments for His purposes (maybe even giving man a vaccine).
 

dad2

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These are secular powers (they are by definition the "World").

You are asking a question posed in Revelation. The answer is simply "it is not time".

God's time is not always our time.

That said, throughout history God has used secular governments for His purposes (maybe even giving man a vaccine).
So maybe God wanted freedoms taken away and babies murdered to use their bodies for research, and maybe God wants lies spewed 24/7 on media, and tens of millions of poor to starve to death because of the lockdowns, and vaccine program eh? That doesn't sound like the God I know. I do not think we can say if it is God's time to prepare to judge nations or not either. It sure looks suspiciously like that could be the case. When the 'world' is engaged in stopping us from preaching the gospel and meeting, and involved in child sacrifice and ritualistic abuse then they are not to be obeyed wholeheartedly and in everything they do. Not sure how this could be news to a bible believer.
 

JonC

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So maybe God wanted freedoms taken away and babies murdered to use their bodies for research, and maybe God wants lies spewed 24/7 on media, and tens of millions of poor to starve to death because of the lockdowns, and vaccine program eh? That doesn't sound like the God I know. I do not think we can say if it is God's time to prepare to judge nations or not either. It sure looks suspiciously like that could be the case. When the 'world' is engaged in stopping us from preaching the gospel and meeting, and involved in child sacrifice and ritualistic abuse then they are not to be obeyed wholeheartedly and in everything they do. Not sure how this could be news to a bible believer.
I disagree. You seem to misrepresent what I (someone of no importance) said (of a topic of no eternal significance).

Do you apply the same lack of care to Scripture?

If you can't be trusted with the small stuff then you certainly can't be trusted with the big stuff.

I never said God liked to have Bablyon take Israel captive. I never said God liked war or destruction.

What I said was God uses these things for His purposes. And I said there is a very real possibility that God, through these powers, gave us the vaccines.
 
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