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I'm just saying........

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HankD

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Yes, Revmitchell's posting of the meme implies that he thinks the neo-Nazis at Charlottesville aren't Nazi's, in effect denying that they are Nazi's. Which is basically denying that some of them wore Nazi uniforms, wore swastika armbands, carried torches ala Nazi rallies and carried Nazi swastika flags.

In effect, he's saying there really weren't any Nazis there.

A breathtaking denial.
Is there evidence?
I would like to see pics of the swastika flags/armbands from the Charlottesville race riot.

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InTheLight

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Is there evidence?
I would like to see pics of the swastika flags/armbands from the Charlottesville race riot.

HankD
Yeah, I could post them but you'd just say Fake News like the last couple of times I posted the evidence you asked me directly to provide.

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HankD

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I feel like I'm taking crazy pills at this point.
Why?

The Jewish side of my family came to America in the early 1900's - about 1905 - so that's why I am here today (well, the Lord had something to do with it as well) they missed the holocaust but not those of my family left in eastern Europe.

I certainly have no love for nazi or neo-nazi groups, I sincerely want hard evidence.


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TCassidy

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Is a Neo-Nazi a true Nazi?

Is a Neo-Con a true Conservative?

Is a Neo-Evangelical a true Evangelical?

Is a Neo-Orthodox a real Orthodox?

As the Nazi Party (National Socialist Party) ceased to exist in 1945 it seems obvious to me there were no Nazi's at Charlottesville. There certainly were Neo-Nazis present, represented by such groups as Vanguard America, the Traditionalist Workers party, The League of the South, etc. They vary tremendously, The League of the South being a pro-secessionist group less concerned with race than independence.

But none of those I listed were Socialists. To the contrary, most would support the more extreme forms of Laissez Faire Capitalism (probably without knowing what, exactly, it is).

The constant references to National Socialism is simply the invocation of Godwin's Law. An attempt at the logical fallacy of "guilt by association."

The Neo-Nazi's don't need to be compared to German National Socialism. They can look despicable all by themselves.

So, rather than name calling let's look at some facts. The Neo-Nazi groups applied for an received a permit for their demonstration.

Had they not been there none of this would have happened.

BLM and Anti-fa did NOT have a permit for their "counter demonstration."

Had they not shown up there would have been no trouble.

Had the Mayor not ordered the police to stand down there would have been very little violence.

Had the City Council not passed an ordinance to desecrate a memorial to a US Army verteran, none of this would have happened.

Was all of this just massive coincidence?

Or was it orchestrated by one group, the other group, the Mayor and City Council.

And where will it end? Now the radical left is calling for the removal of the Washington Monument and the Jefferson Memorial because they were both slave owners.

And last Sunday the Atlanta Peace Monument, erected in 1911 as a symbol of peace and unity was vandalized by these same "protesters."

It's got to stop. If it does not stop it will not end well for anyone.
 

JonC

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I wasn't accusing you of denying Nazis were in Charlottesville I'm accusing Revmitchell.

Here is a thread titled, "I'm Just Sayin'..." and a meme that says "black people are fighting white people who were never Nazis"

How can you not see that he's just sayin', there weren't Nazis there?

This is not about the statues, not about the percent makeup of the crowds. This is about Rev's assertion that there weren't Nazis there. The very definition of Fake News. My goodness, what next? Six million Jews didn't get exterminated?
Well, obviously you and @Use of Time were mistaking (best case) or deliberately hijacking the thread and falsely accusing another (worst and probable, IMHO, case). The OP has been clarified by its author (his agreement with my assumption this was never about Nazi's but about the underlying controversy).

I wonder why you and @Use of Time jumped so quick to the conclusion it was about Nazi's. A little witch hunting perhaps? Or just unable to discuss the actual topic?
 

Matt Black

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Is a Neo-Nazi a true Nazi?

Is a Neo-Con a true Conservative?

Is a Neo-Evangelical a true Evangelical?

Is a Neo-Orthodox a real Orthodox?

As the Nazi Party (National Socialist Party) ceased to exist in 1945 it seems obvious to me there were no Nazi's at Charlottesville. There certainly were Neo-Nazis present, represented by such groups as Vanguard America, the Traditionalist Workers party, The League of the South, etc. They vary tremendously, The League of the South being a pro-secessionist group less concerned with race than independence.

But none of those I listed were Socialists. To the contrary, most would support the more extreme forms of Laissez Faire Capitalism (probably without knowing what, exactly, it is).

The constant references to National Socialism is simply the invocation of Godwin's Law. An attempt at the logical fallacy of "guilt by association."
Mike Godwin disagrees: Twitter

And if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waves a Swastika, it's a freaking Nazi. End of.
 

Rolfe

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Baptist Board has really made bottom with this thread.

My own opinion. Anyone who self-identifies as a Nazi or Neo-Nazi can be considered just as good as one.

(Now back to the shadows for me...)
 
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Use of Time

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Well, obviously you and @Use of Time were mistaking (best case) or deliberately hijacking the thread and falsely accusing another (worst and probable, IMHO, case). The OP has been clarified by its author (his agreement with my assumption this was never about Nazi's but about the underlying controversy).

I wonder why you and @Use of Time jumped so quick to the conclusion it was about Nazi's. A little witch hunting perhaps? Or just unable to discuss the actual topic?

The author never clarified anything. He as usual drops his trash and walks away. We have stated as nauseum it's not about Nazi's it's about the misleading meme that of course demonizes black people and pretends like the Nazis are not a thing that is being countered right now. It's really not hard.
 

JonC

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Mike Godwin disagrees: Twitter

And if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waves a Swastika, it's a freaking Nazi. End of.
The OP concerns the removal of Confederate statues and the long standing leftist opinion that anyone who does not support such a philosophy of removing anything that seems to them offensive is a Nazi. I take it this is your position as well.

I am interested to see your reaction when you come to the realization that most of the left (and probably much of the right as well) finds the gospel just as offensive, if not more so, than a Confederate statue.

Will you don your arm band when the time comes? Or have you already?

BTW, this reminds me of a Floyd song - Pigs (probably because I went to the Waters concert this past weekend....which should earn me some points with CTB....where's CTB...:Laugh ). Anyway, if you are familiar with the song, there are "three different ones". But they are still pigs.
 
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