Infant Salvation

[Brother Bob]

wow. That's a new one.

Bro. Bob, do you want me to talk to you? I won't give you the brushoff.:laugh:__________________

Thank you Amy;
I don't see where I said anything out of the way whatsoever, except challenge his doctrine and finding faults with others.
He knows he can't show any "heat", also in his post, he did not make a way for the non-elect's children to be saved. I suspect that is what touched a nerve. If he don't want to talk to me, so be it. I will pray for him.

Please be careful Amy; you may get the brushoff too................

 

[Amy.G]

Thank you Amy;
I don't see where I said anything out of the way whatsoever, except challenge his doctrine and finding faults with others.

I thought that's what debate was all about. If we agreed on everything, there wouldn't be a debate.

Of course, the idea is to convince everyone else that we're right!:laugh:

 

[Andy T.]

No matter what one's view of this issue may be, ReformedBaptist is one of the most polite and generous posters I've seen on this board. He puts most of us, including myself, to shame.

 

[ReformedBaptist]

I challenge you to show where you gave the children of the non-elect any chance at all.

ReformedBaptist
You accuse me trying to stir the pot when I challenge you to show of any heated discussion. Also, others see what I see, that you are making a way for the elect"s children only. You do not accuse them of stirring the pot.
You talk down to people when you are only in your 30's. I say you got a ways to go and then you should not talk down to people. No one has the right to talk "down" to another, unless its his child.
There is only been debating, not heat as you accused as soon as you came back.

I challenge you to show the heat. We were getting along very nicely, thank you.

What we are saying is that the child is not lost to start with. If you want to prove otherwise, use scripture and lay off how the rest of us are doing, we don't need your admiration or disapproval!

You are just another member as we are.

I will allow one more reponse in hope of the love of God.

1. I accused you of nothing. Please bear witness of my accusation of accusing you of stirring the pot. I asked you if that was your intent, which is a question, not an accusation. If you doubt the sincerity of my question that is in issue within you, not me.

2. I have already shown you your words, quoting them, where you inserted "barbs" into your words to me that were humiliating to me. i.e. "your precious Calvin" That generates heat. IMO

3. I have answered fully and completely concerning my views on infant salvation. It should be sufficient for you. Perhaps you can quote where I have answered your specific challenge and you wish clarification.

4. You have accused me in this post of talking down to people, and have brought as a negative against me my age. I would like you to provide objective proof of this accusation in what I have written in this thread or another. Please provide more than your interpretation of my words and what you think my mind was in them. I want objective proof that I am looking down on any one of the saints on this board.

5. Point #4 will serve as further evidence of words and language you are using that generate heat rather than light.

 

[Brother Bob]

Really you have not refuted what I said about you not giving the non elect children a chance to heaven.

Most of all, you have not shown any "heat" as you say, until you came back.

I posted your entire article on you giving the "elect's" children the right to heaven, even though you used scripture which did not say that.

precious Calvin, I said that because you kept referring to him so much, I am sorry if it heated you.

You never asked any others who challenged your doctrine if they were stirring the pot, just me. You can say all you want there was not anything behind it.

#4 you brought on by coming back and saying I been gone, but I see where you all are still a little "heated", as if you were talking to children.

Andy T.
Why am I not surprised to see you support one of your own. Every subject there is where C/A is concerned, the C gather in in groves, which is your right, but don't be surprised when I do not agree with your doctrine and accuse you of following the TULIP.

 

[ReformedBaptist]

Really you have not refuted what I said about you not giving the non elect children a chance to heaven.

Most of all, you have not shown any "heat" as you say, until you came back.

I posted your entire article on you giving the "elect's" children the right to heaven, even though you used scripture which did not say that.

precious Calvin, I said that because you kept referring to him so much, I am sorry if it heated you.

You never asked any others who challenged your doctrine if they were stirring the pot, just me. You can say all you want there was not anything behind it.

#4 you brought on by coming back and saying I been gone, but I see where you all are still a little "heated", as if you were talking to children.

Andy T.
Why am I not surprised to see you support one of your own. Every subject there is where C/A is concerned, the C gather in in groves, which is your right, but don't be surprised when I do not agree with your doctrine and accuse you of following the TULIP.

Thank you for your reply. It apprears that no matter how I word something or explain myself you have your impression of me and that is fine. This is why I think we should cease our discussions for now. We are just not seeing eye-to-eye, attitudes are being mispercieved that are not there, et. We are not communicating and I don't see how continuing a dialogue with you will glorify God or benefit the saints.

I wish you all the best,

Your servant in Christ,
RB

 

[ReformedBaptist]

No matter what one's view of this issue may be, ReformedBaptist is one of the most polite and generous posters I've seen on this board. He puts most of us, including myself, to shame.

Thank you brother Andy, I have really sought the Lord to be gentle. I admit some of the dialogue has frustrated me and I had to step away and edit some posts. Thank you for your kind words, they refreshed my heart.

 

[Andy T.]

Andy T.
Why am I not surprised to see you support one of your own. Every subject there is where C/A is concerned, the C gather in in groves, which is your right, but don't be surprised when I do not agree with your doctrine and accuse you of following the TULIP.

No, I was just commenting on his posting demeanor. And lest you think I am just being biased, I think Allan (a non-Calvinist) is also another polite and generous poster.

Peace to you Brother Bob.

 

[Brother Bob]

No, I was just commenting on his posting demeanor. And lest you think I am just being biased, I think Allan (a non-Calvinist) is also another polite and generous poster.

Peace to you Brother Bob.

Peace to you and I think Allen is a polite poster as well.

 

[pinoybaptist]

No, I was just commenting on his posting demeanor. And lest you think I am just being biased, I think Allan (a non-Calvinist) is also another polite and generous poster.

Peace to you Brother Bob.

agree with you re both posters, brother.:thumbs:

I wish that could be said of me, but unfortunately I easily go down this
here road --------->:BangHead: But with the likes of these two brethren of opposite camps who are generous and polite, I and I hope most of us, will learn.:1_grouphug:

 

[ReformedBaptist]

I thought that's what debate was all about. If we agreed on everything, there wouldn't be a debate.

Of course, the idea is to convince everyone else that we're right!:laugh:

Just for the record, the idea of trying to convince others I am right, and hence, they are wrong, is something I am trying to avoid! This attitude, and I speak for myself alone, has been a source of arrogance in the past to me. This is not to say that I don't believe I am correct. But the idea in my discussion, or entering a controversy with someone, is to bring glory to God and comfort and edification to the elect of God.

Your servant in Christ,
RB

 

[Amy.G]

Sister,

Is that really the right judgment of me? I am contending for peace. I think you have misjudged the purpose of me not answering Bob back.

"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh." Gal 5: 14-16

Forgive me if I offended you. There has been enough of that lately on the board, of which I accept my share of the guilt.

It struck my funny that you chose not to speak to BB. I have never seen that before. Sometimes my humor gets taken the wrong way.

You have been very polite and even though I don't agree on all the Calvin beliefs, I have found good Calvinistic (is that a word? ) friends on this board and do NOT want to offend them.

Friends?

 

[ReformedBaptist]

Forgive me if I offended you. There has been enough of that lately on the board, of which I accept my share of the guilt.

It struck my funny that you chose not to speak to BB. I have never seen that before. Sometimes my humor gets taken the wrong way.

You have been very polite and even though I don't agree on all the Calvin beliefs, I have found good Calvinistic (is that a word? ) friends on this board and do NOT want to offend them.

Friends?

More than mere friends my sister, brethren. May the grace and peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you in abundance today. And please forgive me, I sometimes don't recognize good humor when I read it.

 

[Amy.G]

Just for the record, the idea of trying to convince others I am right, and hence, they are wrong, is something I am trying to avoid! This attitude, and I speak for myself alone, has been a source of arrogance in the past to me. This is not to say that I don't believe I am correct. But the idea in my discussion, or entering a controversy with someone, is to bring glory to God and comfort and edification to the elect of God.

Your servant in Christ,
RB

See? I told you my humor gets taken the wrong way.

Of course we want to bring Glory to God. I was only making fun of myself.

 

[ReformedBaptist]

See? I told you my humor gets taken the wrong way.

Of course we want to bring Glory to God. I was only making fun of myself.

Blah...its my poor sense of humor. Where's the micophone on this thing...:BangHead:

 

[Amy.G]

Blah...its my poor sense of humor. Where's the micophone on this thing...:BangHead:

:laugh: Hey that was funny!

Ok, back to the discussion.

 

[ReformedBaptist]

:laugh: Hey that was funny!

Ok, back to the discussion.

k... babies go to heaven, so do sheep. And goats go to hell.

 

[Amy.G]

k... babies go to heaven, so do sheep. And goats go to hell.

I can go with that.

 

[ReformedBaptist]

I can go with that.

And it only took 158 posts.

 

[Jarthur001]

And it only took 158 posts.

not so fast