With all due respect when you explicitly say "YOU SAY...." when I said no such thing or inferred no such thing, that is a false charge.
First, eternal security of the believer is not any process of logical conclusions but the clear and explicit teaching of scripture (Jn. 5:24; 6:37-39; 10:26-30; etc.). No logic involved just plain scripture.
Second, one either accepts it or rejects it.
Third, any doctrine that concludes in the rejection of it is rejecting the whole Biblical basis upon which that biblical doctrine stands.
Fourth, it is not biblical terms that define doctrine or truth but the definition of those biblical terms.
Therefore, all denominations which openly disavow the bibical doctrine of eternal security are openly disavowing the doctrine of justification by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone without works REGARDLESS of their logical explanations. We do not judge a denomination by their explanations but by the Bible's explanations. Therefore, it is not me "imposing" my "logical conclusions" on anyone - unless you too deny the Biblical doctrine of eternal security and therefore charging me with false doctrine derived from simply my "logical conclusions" instead of fidelity to the Biblical teaching??????? Is that it?
I was trying to be charitable instead of calling you heretical in this regard.
You don't even know my view of the baptism in the Spirit. My point was that "baptism" is not always (or perhaps even most of the time" the symbolic water baptism in which you seem to place so much faith. When we talk of the "same baptism" we (Baptists who do not believe in baptismal regeneration) typically speak of the salvation of which baptism symbolizes. Your error is the divide between the Stone-Campbell movement and legitimate Baptist churches (which does, come to think of it, go right along with Landmarkism). Your doctrine seems more in line with Campbellism than it does with Baptist theology, and unfortunately you seem right at the line of that heresy.
When you said,
We are not talking about a “different baptism” because that “baptism” is not the water baptism of which you allude. It is being baptized in Christ, the work of which water baptism testifies.
There is no question as to what you believe or else you could not possibly make that underlined statement. So I know exactly what you are talking about and it is not baptism in water you are talking about and that statement is well documented and explained in many theology books.
Well, "y'all" is wrong and they are spot on!
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