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Is 1 John 2:2 Really a defence of Universal Atonement?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by jne1611, Sep 25, 2006.

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  1. jne1611

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    Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
    Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
    Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
     
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    Now you come my way. There is the Spirit of God that strives with all men for He said I stand at the door and knock and if any man will hear my voice I will come in and sup with him and he with me. Now that Spirit is striving and if man will believe and take heed to that Spirit he can be saved. Also, there is a spirit of the devil striving with that same man and man is at a cross roads and must choose which spirit he will follow. amen,
     
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    Sure if you will believe.
     
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    I see how you are thinking. What do you believe the Spirit does to a man when he is drawn? Just simply invites him to accept Christ & leaves it up to him to choose?
     
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    James:
    Where you at, was jezebele of that Nation?

    Were there others of other nations who had accepted Israel's God?
     
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    Now I ask you. Do you produce faith? Or does God give it to you?
     
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    He may be asleep. He sounded tired.
     
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    Lets say this is true.....

    was the atonement for all mankind in the OT?
     
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    Man is given a measure of faith and he must put it in action as Mary chose the "good part that would never be taken away" we too must use that measure of faith and choose the good part.
     
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    James;
    You know I am going to take you to a "timeless" God now that knows all for He is everlasting to everlasting.

    BTW, I knew you were studying about that last post I made for we discussed that before.
     
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    which jezebele?

    The one in the OT was a jew in that she married Ahab, the king of Israel.


    The one in rev...I do not know.
     
    #51 Jarthur001, Sep 25, 2006
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    Now we are getting some where. Who then are the believers, but those who God has given faith to?
     
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    I never heard a strawman like that James
    We been talking about the one in Rev. I even gave chapter and verse.
     
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    Ok...is the one in Rev a jew?
     
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    He gave the measure of faith to all men. The believers are those that use that faith to follow the Spirit to Salvation.
     
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    I don't think he was making a straw man. I even thought you might have been including the one in the Old Testament as well.
     
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    You tell me but if she was why was she lost?
     
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    2Th 3:2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
     
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    Then you just posting and not reading the answers for I gave Chapter and verse the first time she was mentioned and you knew who I was talking about for I could tell by your answers.
     
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    All men have not the faith that was delivered unto the saints. Also, there are those who have had the concious seared with a heart iron, I doubt if they have any faith at all. But who knows, even the devil believed.
     
    #60 Brother Bob, Sep 25, 2006
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