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Is America better in race relations since Holder/Obama?

carpro

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Who exactly have I called a racist? I think some people have made some racist comments but I believe it comes more from ignorance than being racist. I've attempted to point this out to people but I don't think they are racist. What exactly is it you would like to discuss? I think you are barking up the wrong tree.

I've never shyed away from discussions on race. Whatever.

I got the right tree.

13 pages. 16 posts. never addressed the subject. Indicated at least 3 different posters were racists based on the comments they made.

Again. Never once addressed the topic.
 

Use of Time

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I got the right tree.

13 pages. 16 posts. never addressed the subject. Indicated at least 3 different posters were racists based on the comments they made.

Again. Never once addressed the topic.

Your school system failed you greatly. I addressed racism in this very thread a few pages ago and while correcting others on racist comments I never considered them racist. Nice try though. I see you have resorted to lying through your teeth. Pathetic.
 

poncho

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Does being a DNC operative come with a decent paycheck? Asking for a friend.
You guys are treading into Poncho land now.

Wrong. They're afraid to step foot out of the false left vs right paradigm.

They wouldn't know what to do if they could no longer protect their own crooked party members by blaming the other party's crooked members for everything.

And that goes for both democrats and republicans.

So long as both sides are more interested in blaming the other side than holding their own accountable we're going to have a lawless government.
 

Use of Time

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Wrong. They're afraid to step foot out of the false left vs right paradigm.

They wouldn't know what to do if they could no longer protect their own crooked party members by blaming the other party's crooked members for everything.

And that goes for both democrats and republicans.

So long as both sides are more interested in blaming the other side than holding their own accountable we're going to have a lawless government.

You are aware that was a joke right?
 

carpro

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I see you have resorted to lying through your teeth. Pathetic.

Be careful about making false statements. It's in the archives and I can easily prove you are lying.

Stop imitating Obama and just own up when you're nailed. You don't have the white house press corps to cover your lies.
 

carpro

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Who exactly have I called a racist? I think some people have made some racist comments but I believe it comes more from ignorance than being racist. I've attempted to point this out to people but I don't think they are racist.

Baloney! :laugh:

That's one of the most disingenuous cop-outs I've ever seen.

Is there anything at all that you can be honest about?

I believe You missed your calling. You should be working for the liar-in-chief.
 

Revmitchell

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A new poll by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal reveals that public perceptions about race relations in America have taken a devastating hit since the election of Barack Obama. At the beginning of the president’s first term, 79 percent of whites and 63 percent of blacks had a positive view of American race relations. Those numbers have plummeted to 52 percent and 38 percent, respectively. Meanwhile, 45 percent of whites now consider race relations fairly or very bad, compared with 20 percent in 2009, and the negative views held by black Americans has jumped from 30 percent to 58 percent. Thus, the idea that the election of Barack Obama would usher in a golden age of so-called post-racial relations has exploded. And the president and his administration bear the lion’s share of the responsibility for lighting the fuse.

The poll, conducted in mid-July by Hart Research Associations and Public Opinion Strategies, has tracked Americans’ attitudes about race since 1994. And despite only a single poll question regarding the Zimmerman trial, which asked whether the outcome increased, decreased, or didn’t affect one’s confidence in the legal system, the steepest decline in positive views, and greatest increase in negative views, occurred in the last two years. That the timeframe largely coincides with the Trayvon Martin shooting controversy is likely no coincidence.

The Trayvon Martin case is one of the most visible examples of the Obama administration’s deliberate poisoning of race relations; all in coordination with the NAACP, the racial grievance industry and the corrupt leftist media. We now know that the administration had direct involvement in fanning the flames of racial discord that brought the case to the national stage. The Eric Holder-led Justice Department’s Community Relations Service (CRA) was sent to Sanford, FL to help set up meetings and organize protests. Among other services, the administration arranged an escort for college students participating in a 40-mile march to “demand justice” for Trayvon. When the situation erupted, Obama then famously took the racial motif national, saying, “If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon.”

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/how-obama-poisoned-race-relations-in-america/
 

Use of Time

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Baloney! :laugh:

That's one of the most disingenuous cop-outs I've ever seen.

Is there anything at all that you can be honest about?

I believe You missed your calling. You should be working for the liar-in-chief.

Still can't find a post of me calling someone racist? Didn't think so. There have been racist posts I have chastised people for and I don't apologize for that. Flat out calling somebody racist? Nah, you aren't going to find it. Nice try through. Anything else you want to throw at the wall.

I'm still waiting to discuss race with you as I have done in this thread with others. Got anything to contribute beside a lefty smear campaign? I doubt it. In fact you have focused soley on me for some reason and ignored others that have tried to engage you on race. Who's the coward now?
 

carpro

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Who exactly have I called a racist? .


Quote:
Originally Posted by carpro
Do you dispute that race relations are worse now than when Obama took office?

Do you believe he bears no responsibility for it?

Or are you just another leftist that likes to play the race card to avoid discussing it at all and uses it to squash discussing Obama's failure as a president?

Are you just a coward when it comes to discussing race?


Originally posted by Use of Time
You're crazy. If anything this President has tried to build a cooperative consensus but raciest Republicans like you will have nothing of it.


Didn't call anyone a racist?

It'll be interesting to see if you man up or not.

I suspect not.
 

Use of Time

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Quote:
Originally Posted by carpro



Originally posted by Use of Time



Didn't call anyone a racist?

It'll be interesting to see if you man up or not.

I suspect not.

UPDATE: Wow! Nice try. This is downright slander at this point. That post was made by a poster called Follow the Way which I'm sure was just an honest mistake right? You wouldn't be low enough to try to pass that off as my post when it clearly wasn't me right? Didn't think I would be able to find it did you? Pathetic.

Here is the original. http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2140512&postcount=91
 
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carpro

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UPDATE: Wow! Nice try. This is downright slander at this point. That post was made by a poster called Follow the Way which I'm sure was just an honest mistake right?

Yes it was. My apologies.

But you are still dishonest. To contend that you can call a post racist without imputing that to the poster is completely ludicrous.

Disingenuous. Completely dishonest.
 

Use of Time

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Yes it was. My apologies.

But you are still dishonest. To contend that you can call a post racist without imputing that to the poster is completely ludicrous.

Disingenuous. Completely dishonest.

No it isn't. People have made comments here that might have been appropriate at some point when they were growing up but are perceived as inappropriate today. I have pointed those out to others but that doesn't mean they are racist people. Just ignorant of changing cultural trends. Do you understand that? People can slip and say something that is viewed as racist while ignorant of the fact that they are doing so. I'm not going to sit there and call a person racist if that wasn't their intention but I will offer a correction. I can't explain it any clearer than that and if you don't get it then you are simply being willfully ignorant.

Enough with the three year old tantrums calling people cowards and your pathetic attempts to dig up dirt on me by trying to pin others words in my mouth (which you miserably failed to do). You need to take a break and remember where you are.
 

carpro

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No it isn't. People have made comments here that might have been appropriate at some point when they were growing up but are perceived as inappropriate today. I have pointed those out to others but that doesn't mean they are racist people. Just ignorant of changing cultural trends. Do you understand that? People can slip and say something that is viewed as racist while ignorant of the fact that they are doing so. I'm not going to sit there and call a person racist if that wasn't their intention but I will offer a correction. I can't explain it any clearer than that and if you don't get it then you are simply being willfully ignorant.

Enough with the three year old tantrums calling people cowards and your pathetic attempts to dig up dirt on me by trying to pin others words on me (which you miserably failed to do). You need to take a break and remember where you are.

\And you need to take an honesty pill.

Your "explanation" is a self serving joke.
 

Use of Time

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\And you need to take an honesty pill.

Your "explanation" is a self serving joke.

The irony of you calling me a liar minutes after you just attempted to use someone else's words as my own. A new personal low. The only person being dishonest is you.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you. It really isn't that complicated. The Texas education system at work ladies and gentlemen.
 
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church mouse guy

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The Fatherhood of God, the Brotherhood of Man, and the Neighborhood of Martha's Vineyard and the ivy League--that sums up liberals.
 

Use of Time

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The Fatherhood of God, the Brotherhood of Man, and the Neighborhood of Martha's Vineyard and the ivy League--that sums up liberals.

I don't know if I'll ever be able to recover from your stinging insult about being Ivy league educated. It explains a lot that being educated is something to be scoffed at by conservatives.
 

Crabtownboy

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I don't know if I'll ever be able to recover from your stinging insult about being Ivy league educated. It explains a lot that being educated is something to be scoffed at by conservatives.

There is a thread of anti-intellectualism that runs through our culture and a strong one amount conservatives these days.

The problem with education and reading widely is a person may have to change their mind on issues they have fallen in love with and hate to change.

Now I expect someone to quote the old line, "A little education is a dangerous thing." They all remember that much of the quote, but not the entire quote and put a spin on it that is entirely incorrect ... as many do with scripture. Indeed, a little learning is a dangerous thing, but deep learning helps clear the muddy waters of little education or learning.

The entire quote is: [emphasis mine]


A Little Learning

by Alexander Pope



A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again.

Fired at first sight with what the Muse imparts,
In fearless youth we tempt the heights of Arts ;
While from the bounded level of our mind
Short views we take, nor see the lengths behind,
But, more advanced, behold with strange surprise
New distant scenes of endless science rise !
So pleased at first the towering Alps we try,
Mount o’er the vales, and seem to tread the sky ;
The eternal snows appear already past,
And the first clouds and mountains seem the last ;
But those attained, we tremble to survey
The growing labours of the lengthened way ;
The increasing prospect tires our wandering eyes,
Hill peep o’er hills, and Alps on Alps arise !
 
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