Featured Jerry Walls Refuting Calvinistic Soteriology

And I see, again, you did not actually interact with the argument because you can't.

 

The lost are dead spiritually to God in the things of salvation,

 

Mindless regurgitation of false doctrine is the hall-mark of Calvinists. Where the people of Matthew 23:13 addressed or ignored?
Why did Jesus speak in parables (Matthew 13) is His audience was unable to respond to plain presentation? Or why did God need to harden hearts (Romans 11) if they were already hardened so they could not respond?

No answers will be forthcoming, only other false claims.

 

The bible declares that but the poster in question adds to what is written to change what God had the men write.
1 cor 2:14 is clear....yet the poster says unsaved CAN INDEED understand spiritual milk??? Tricky reworking of the text which is a violation of the bible.

 

The point is that it is false to suppose that us Calvinists do not believe there is a sense in which God wills the salvation not only of the elect, but of all men absolutely, so that He does have a love for the whole world. But there is distinct sense in which God wills the salvation only of the elect from the sense in which He wills the salvation both of the elect and reprobate alike.

The Scripture you cite from Ezekiel 18:23 does not contradict my Reformed/Calvinistic understanding of salvation.

I affirm that when the Scripture says, “The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness; but is longsuffering to you-ward, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance” (2 Peter 3:9 ASV) it does not just refer to the elect, but to all men both elect and reprobate alike. However, I on the other hand, deny that the will of God that is spoken of here is His will of decree. It is not in His will of eternal purpose by which He effectually brings to pass whatsoever He eternally wills and predestines to take place that He wills the salvation of the reprobate.

 

Paul spoke to new Christians as to "men of flesh" using spiritual milk. 1 Corinthians 3:1-3. So the false charge of "tricky reworking of the text" is yet just a denial of the obvious meaning of the text. Anytime a verse says something that conflicts with Calvinism, then its actual meaning is claimed to be a tricky reworking.

1) Putting our faith in Christ is not works, Romans 4
2) Seeking God while unsaved is done, Luke 13:23.
3) God puts individuals of His choosing into Christ, 1 Corinthians 1:30.
4) God credits our faith as righteousness or not, Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24.
5) In Him, In Christ, In His Beloved Son all refer to our status after God puts us into Christ.

 

No, for nothing in affirming all five points of Calvinism is contrary to holding that there is a sense in which it may be acknowledged that God wills both the salvation of the elect and non-elect alike. For we may affirm this while at the same time affirming that there is a sense in which God only wills the salvation of the elect, and that He effectually wills the damnation of the reprobate to their perdition.

 

Yes, all the lost are spiritual dead, not just the elect. But that does not in anyway refute the fact that man being dead in sin must be made spiritually alive by the power and work of God. Man who is spiritually dead is wholly spiritually dead, and therefore devoid of any spiritual life, so that he can neither come to Christ by himself nor yet by the assisting grace of the Spirit believe or come to Christ.

If a sinner is made spiritually alive by God, then does he effectually believe unto salvation.

 

It is along the lines 'continually' that people fail to keep the law.
Those people were still alive when that was written, and had not yet failed to keep the laws and ordinances, but no one can do that their whole life without a single failure except Christ. Those people mentioned were still 'under the curse', just like Paul teaches, unless they have 'faith', but they they did have faith, so then were like believing Abraham. Indeed they must have had 'faith' because without faith it is impossible to please Him.

Galatians 3:9-13
New King James Version
9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.
The Law Brings a Curse
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” 11 But that no one is [a]justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” 12 Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.”
13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”),

 

If that's the counter-argument, I'll take it.

 

The word 'faith' does not appear in scripture until Genesis 22 talking of Abraham, so was not specifically mentioned that Abel, Enoch, Noah had faith in their testimony stories.

Paul in Hebrews said those names did have faith and gives the evidentiary arguments that they did have faith. So people like Zacharias and Elizabeth also had faith, they had the substance of things hoped for, evidence of things not see happen in their lives. So they must have had faith which pleased God.

Hebrews 11
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.
3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

 

Man naturally his mind is enmity against God, and cant be subject to God and cannot please God Rom 8:7-8

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

 

lol, If its spiritual he cant receive it and understand it 1 Cor 2:14

 

Sure but God only saves some from their lostness, the Elect.

 

No its not. It supports it. Those believing had been ordained to eternal life aforetime Acts 13:48

48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

The world of the elect who believe God so loved, His Sheep