John MacArthur

[SavedByGrace]

How you decide Pastors can't be worth a million dollars?

Why should they be?

There are millions of very poor Christians and thousands of very poor pastors around the world

 

[Reynolds]

I bet that percentage wise, Mac takes far less money out of his church than most of pastors who criticize him take.

 

[Reynolds]

This is what Jesus says

Luke 9:3
And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece.

That was traveling evangelist.

 

[Reynolds]

Why should they be?

There are millions of very poor Christians and thousands of very poor pastors around the world

What in Scripture says they can't be?

 

[SavedByGrace]

That was traveling evangelist.

2 Corinthians 8:9
For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

 

[SavedByGrace]

What in Scripture says they can't be?

We are told to live MODEST lives

 

[SavedByGrace]

What in Scripture says they can't be?

There is a lot of GREED in Christianity. Like Bibles being sold for £80! Which are out of any copyright

 

[SavedByGrace]

What in Scripture says they can't be?

This is for all Christians

1 Timothy 2:9

In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

 

[Reynolds]

2 Corinthians 8:9
For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

Does that say a pastor had to be poor? No. It does not.

 

[Reynolds]

We are told to live MODEST lives

You the one who gets to define modest,?

 

[Reynolds]

This is for all Christians

1 Timothy 2:9

In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

Johnny Mac a woman?

 

[SavedByGrace]

Johnny Mac a woman?

Sounds like you are trying to justify christian leaders being mega rich. Where do they get their money from? The members of their church!

Are you wealthy?

 

[SavedByGrace]

Johnny Mac a woman?

This verse applies to ALL believers

 

[Reynolds]

Sounds like you are trying to justify christian leaders being mega rich. Where do they get their money from? The members of their church!

Are you wealthy?

Is Johnny Mac a woman? You can't twist scripture to suit you.
Compared to some, I am wealthy.
Compared to some, I am a pauper.

 

[Reynolds]

This verse applies to ALL believers

No. It does not. All believers should be modest, but this verse in particular pertains to women.

 

[SavedByGrace]

No. It does not. All believers should be modest, but this verse in particular pertains to women.

You probably agree with this

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pu...-in-the-world-and-their-net-worth/lwj95ky.amp

 

[Reynolds]

You probably agree with this

Top 15 richest pastors in the world and their net worth

I ain't none of my business.
What rabbit trail you headed down next?

 

[SavedByGrace]

I ain't none of my business.
What rabbit trail you headed down next?

You are the one who said that pastors can be millionaires! So Copelands 300 million is fine???

 

[Reynolds]

You are the one who said that pastors can be millionaires! So Copelands 300 million is fine???

I said scripture does not prohibit it. By rules of debate, I do not prove a negative. The burden falls on the person holding to an affirmative to state the affirmative evidence that refutes the negative claim.

 

[SavedByGrace]

I said scripture does not prohibit it. By rules of debate, I do not prove a negative. The burden fally on the person holding to an affirmative to state the affirmative evidence that refutes the negative claim.

I repeat. So Copelands 300 million is perfectly fine?