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KJV's Textual Error

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SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Yeshua1 said:
same as the Living Bible, just paraphrases!
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The Lord's Prayer in the Message Bible

Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
Set the world right;
Do what's best—
as above, so below.
Keep us alive with three square meals.
Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
You’re in charge!
You can do anything you want!
You’re ablaze in beauty!
Yes. Yes. Yes.

Message Bible John 1:1

The Word was first,
the Word present to God,
God present to the Word.
The Word was God,
in readiness for God from day one.

2 Corinthians 5:21 in the Good News Bible

Christ was without sin, but for our sake God made him share our sin in order that in union with him we might share the righteousness of God
 
Stratton7

Stratton7

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Yeshua1 said:
ALL reputable translations are the word of God to us in the native language, as they would be infallible witness to the truths and doctrines of God!
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That’s just it, doctrines are changed because of the vast amount of differing words used.
 
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Conan

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SavedByGrace said:
Firstly, it is NOT correct to suggest "The evidence is overwhelming against you on this"!

The earliest Greek manuscripts that include the words as part of the Epistle, are Codex Sinaiticus, Codex Vaticanus, both of the 4th century. And the Codex Alexandrinus, of the 5th. It is also part of ther text in the Old Latin, 2nd century, and the majority of ancient Versions, including the Latin Vulgate, 4th cent. Origen in the Greek, 3rd cent.

The oldest Greek manuscript that omits the words, is the Codex know as K, which dates from the 9th cent. ONE manuscript of the Old Latin, a few of the Latin Vulgate. And ONE of the Coptic! That is it!
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My responce of overwhelming evidence is for John 1:18. You confused post's.. That's ok though.
 
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Logos1560

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MB said:
Yes but the thought is the same just worded differently. The reason the NKJV is not a revised version of the KJV, they are unaffiliated.The thought that the New King James version is in fact a new version of the KJV is false. They just wanted to sell Bibles so they stole the name. misleading people in to thinking that it is the New King James. In my opinion they are completely different.
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Your opinion is misleading and wrong. They are not completely different.

Just like the KJV is both a revision of pre-1611 English Bibles and a translation of the multiple varying editions of the original-language texts, the NKJV is both a revision of the KJV and a translation of the same multiple original-language texts. The Church of England makers of the KJV made the same type changes and revisions to the pre-1611 English Bibles that the makers of the NKJV made to the KJV. The NKJV is a revised version of the KJV is the same way that the KJV is a revised version of the Bishops' Bible and of the Geneva Bible.
 
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Logos1560

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Stratton7 said:
Through preservation of the originals that were inspired, those words don’t cease to be inspired today in the KJB.
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The KJV does not have the same words as the preserved Scriptures in the original languages. In many cases the KJV has no English rendering for original-language words of Scriptures, and in many cases the KJV adds English words for which it has no original-language words of Scripture. It has not been demonstrated that the different words in the KJV always have the same exact meaning as the original-language words of Scripture.

You have not demonstrated from the Scriptures that the process of the giving of the Scriptures by inspiration of God to the prophets and apostles continued after the completion of the giving of the New Testament.

The preserved Scriptures in the original languages remain the proper standard and greater authority for the making and trying of all Bible translations.
 
Stratton7

Stratton7

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Logos1560 said:
The KJV does not have the same words as the preserved Scriptures in the original languages.
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I disagree because of God’s promises to preserve His words. No one has the originals! Nor does older always mean better.
The Critical text manuscripts discovered are in good shape most likely because they weren’t being used.
 
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