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Legal suit questions the citizenship of Obama

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LadyEagle

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Exactly Mrs Obama admitted no such thing as the title implies. She says he was born in Hawaii - that makes him a naturla born citizen, whether adopted by a non-citizen or not.

NEWS FLASH: Mrs. Obama (BHO's mother) has been dead for several years....
 

LadyEagle

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Why doesn't McCain have to show his?

The very fact that you would post this shows you haven't bothered enough to view the video link I posted, because this question was answered in it by the attorney, Mr. Berg. If you won't even view the video, why should we bother to take anything you post seriously?

Answer: McCain was very forthcoming in producing not only his Original Birth Certificate but also his medical records. Obama has produced neither.

Here is the link again for latecomers to this thread and just in case you might want to view sources posted on here before showing your left wing intellectualism and commenting:

http://www.americanpatrol.com/MISCN...AMA/OctSurpriseVideo081012.html?v=gA6_k3NtXZs
 

just-want-peace

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The very fact that you would post this shows you haven't bothered enough to view the video link I posted, because this question was answered in it by the attorney, Mr. Berg.

This one fact (generally, not JUST this one item) explains an awful lot re: the liberal's attitude, does it not??
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

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LadyEagle said:


NEWS FLASH: Mrs. Obama (BHO's mother) has been dead for several years....

So now I can't even call Michelle Obama Mrs Obama?????

The link I referred to was the one where she said "My husband was born in Hawaii...' but it was trying to prove he is not a citizen because he was adopted. Adoption does not take away natural born citizen status.

My humble pie crust is waiting, but I am picking some apples so I don't waste the crust.
 

Bible-boy

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LeBuick said:
Again, a guy name his site Obama Crimes? The same guy who decided we don't trust his birth certificates so lets file a law suite. You want to push this as a non-biased factual site? Go ahead, not even McCain is questioning his citizenship.

In case you have not noticed there is no such thing as a completely unbiased source when it come to politics. The sign of an enlightened individual is that one is willing to, can, and does read information from both sides of the political spectrum and then makes up his mind where he stands. However, it is completely closed minded on your part to even consider reading the information presented just because you believe it is "from the other side." It is funny how liberals are always accusing conservatives of being closed minded, but it is generally liberals who refuse to even consider reading information "from the other side.":tonofbricks:
 

JustChristian

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LadyEagle said:


NEWS FLASH: Mrs. Obama (BHO's mother) has been dead for several years....


This news flash must have come from "Fair and Balanced" FOX News. This was referring to Obama's WIFE not his mother.
 

Bible-boy

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Hmmm....

Was Michelle Obama present at BHO's birth and old enough to have a memory of the event. I don't think so. However, simply providing the official birth documentation to the court in PA would bring a swift end to the whole question. Why will BHO not do so?

By the way, couldn't the PA Judge simply subpoena the birth records directly from the state and be done with this?
 
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Crabtownboy

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Interesting story from PolitiFact

Oh boy! You are going to confuse the Obama haters with the facts. You'd better duck. This while idea was and is so far fetched that no rational person could have seriously thought that any person could have reached the point of running for president if they were not a native born citizen.

I discounted this one as soon as I heard it as it is an impossibility. I wish I knew how to paste the image of the birth certificate in this message. Oh well ...........
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

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Crabtownboy said:
Oh boy! You are going to confuse the Obama haters with the facts. You'd better duck. This while idea was and is so far fetched that no rational person could have seriously thought that any person could have reached the point of running for president if they were not a native born citizen.

I discounted this one as soon as I heard it as it is an impossibility. I wish I knew how to paste the image of the birth certificate in this message. Oh well ...........

They are just going to call it a fraud...
 

LadyEagle

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C4K said:
Interesting story from PolitiFact

Yeh, well, I did a little fact checking on my own on Google. Seems PolitiFact is owned by the St. Petersburg Times which endorsed Barack Obama for President. There wouldn't be a "conflict of interest" would there? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 

Crabtownboy

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LadyEagle said:
Yeh, well, I did a little fact checking on my own on Google. Seems PolitiFact is owned by the St. Petersburg Times which endorsed Barack Obama for President. There wouldn't be a "conflict of interest" would there? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Using your logic then Fox news should not report anything positive about McCain since they endorsed him. If they do, again using your logic, they are guilty of conflict of interest.

C4K, you are right. Those who do not believe will never believe regardless of the impossibility of their idea, or the proof they are shown they are wrong.
 

LadyEagle

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Crabtownboy said:
Using your logic then Fox news should not report anything positive about McCain since they endorsed him. If they do, again using your logic, they are guilty of conflict of interest.

C4K, you are right. Those who do not believe will never believe regardless of the impossibility of their idea, or the proof they are shown they are wrong.

See, it's not a matter of logic, it's a fact. The St. Pete times officially endorsed Obama on October 5.

Can you prove Fox News has officially endorse McCain? The Internet seems to be silent about it. So unless you can prove it by linking to an official source, what you have posted is not true.

The St Pete Times has officially endorsed John Kerry and Al Gore in past elections.
 

canadyjd

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Crabtownboy said:
Using your logic then Fox news should not report anything positive about McCain since they endorsed him. If they do, again using your logic, they are guilty of conflict of interest.

C4K, you are right. Those who do not believe will never believe regardless of the impossibility of their idea, or the proof they are shown they are wrong.
Fox News has endorsed MaCain? When did that happen? Can you support that claim?

peace to you:praying:
 

Bible-boy

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Crabtownboy said:
Using your logic then Fox news should not report anything positive about McCain since they endorsed him. If they do, again using your logic, they are guilty of conflict of interest.

C4K, you are right. Those who do not believe will never believe regardless of the impossibility of their idea, or the proof they are shown they are wrong.

When did Fox News endorse McCain? Can you please provide a link to a Fox News source where Fox News officially announced its endorsement of McCain? If not please retract your apparently false accusation.
 

canadyjd

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windcatcher said:
... But if he was adopted when Indonesia didn't recognize dual citizenship, then if he was an American citizen by birth, he lost it by adoption through the choice of his parents and when he returned to the states.... it was up to him to get it restored. The latter situation he has not addressed...
I don't believe you are correct on this. I don't think the laws of Indonesia on dual citizenship would take away Obama's citizenship as a child (if he were born in the U.S.)

From an already cited article:
If, at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it.
If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. There are no conditions placed on retaining this type of citizenship. If your one U.S. citizen parent is your father and you were born outside of marriage, the same rules apply if your father legally legitimated you before your 21st birthday and you were unmarried at the time. If legitimation occurred after November 14, 1986, your father must have established paternity prior to your 18th birthday, either by acknowledgment or by court order, and must have stated in writing that he would support you financially until your 18th birthday. (emphasis mine)
If Obama was a citizen at birth, he could rightfully maintain his citizenship regardless of what his parents did. Only he could taken steps as an adult to abandon his citizenship and he obviously has not done that.


I am, however, still interested in seeing the origional birth certificate and establishing that he was born in Hawaii and not Kenya. That appears to me to be a far more important issue.

peace to you:praying:
 

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LadyEagle

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After crabtownboy posts his official link to prove his allegedly false allegation about FNC, we will shut down this thread since we are on page 10.

We are all waiting for this official FNC link with baited breath. :sleeping_2:
 
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