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They prophesied until the gifts expired. So if you consider this, it will sort things out for you. But scripture, now perfect (complete) out performs all the gifts and this should be proof enough of their expiration.How about if the Bible itself says they are prophesying, and they are evangelizing? Care to actually answer the Scriptures instead of just little old me?
Why should that be proof? Leap in logic.
If you understand the gifts, and compare them to scripture, scripture obviously does better at what the gifts attempted to do. But this takes an understanding of the gifts and their limits.
Well, that's condescending. You think you're my teacher, eh? Frankly, you have not shown enough knowledge of prophecy on this thread to make me want to sit at your feet.
If only eschatology was that simplistic.
Does Scripture win souls without the human element? Do you deny my premise (which you have previously ignored) that evangelism is one form of forth-telling prophecy?All of them? What about the list in Romans 12:6-8, on which Paul writes in the present tense? Prophesy (in the sense of forth-telling, preaching the Gospel), ministry, teaching, exhortation, giving, ruling, mercy. And the end of verse 4 notes that "all members have not the same office." which lets us know that God provides these gifts as He will, and not all of them to each believer.
Prophets were alive and well up until John completed the canon with Revelation. From then on we have a plethora of crack pots, much like today claiming the gift.
I know what I believe is true based on scripture. Many have only a knowledge based on a hypothetical gap in Daniel scripture nowhere supports.Well, that's condescending. You think you're my teacher, eh? Frankly, you have not shown enough knowledge of prophecy on this thread to make me want to sit at your feet.
If only eschatology was that simplistic.
In the Friberg lexicon, the following definition of the Greek word for "prophecy" is given: "in N.T., the gift of expounding scripture, of speaking and preaching." So you see, scholars agree with me that prophecy is not necessarily foretelling the future or giving inspired Scripture, like you seem to think. It is simply forth-telling what God has said already.
Just like the OT--there were real Prophets and there were False Prophets. There are still prophets Today.
Not according to scripture. If there are, scripture is not complete.
It's ironic that you say that...if there are NOT Prophets, Scripture is incomplete
Prophecy = God speaking according to the bible.It's ironic that you say that...if there are NOT Prophets, Scripture is incomplete
Wait. You must be a spammer. You don't pay a bit of attention to what I write, and you don't answer my points. I wrote nothing about a gap in Daniel, and nothing about it being hypothetical.
I said originally that the artificial gap in Daniel made it possible for Liberty U. and Dispensationalist to keep the visions and the prophecies alive just as the Pentecostals do.Wait. You must be a spammer. You don't pay a bit of attention to what I write, and you don't answer my points. I wrote nothing about a gap in Daniel, and nothing about it being hypothetical.
But hey, go ahead and send the $3,000,000 please. (Are you still based in Nigeria?)
Moral and spiritual blindness.
without a gap..... stuffed like a pita with false prophecy.
Restored Roman Empire, 7 year tribulation, rebuilt temple with sacrifices, future Antichrist (ignoring the Papacy as the Antichrist in history) and Russia marching on Israel etc... All false prophecy.