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Aaron

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One doth protest too much, no?
Indeed. One swings the sword where the battle is. The thief's in the bedroom and Zaac's talking about the parlor.

[filthy innuendo snipped]
 
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pk4life

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If you want to take God out of the mix, take the US government out of the mix also.

Just strip it down to what marriage is, at it's very core.

“Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh”

You don't need government, or laws, for that.
 

Aaron

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All civil law has its roots in marriage. Law and order—society—does not exist without it.
 

Yeshua1

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If you want to take God out of the mix, take the US government out of the mix also.

Just strip it down to what marriage is, at it's very core.

“Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh”

You don't need government, or laws, for that.

you do when the Govt is "hell bent" on redefining marriage as between 2 lovong prtners, straight or gay/lesbian, and many churches whole heartily supporting that movement!
 

pk4life

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you do when the Govt is "hell bent" on redefining marriage as between 2 lovong prtners, straight or gay/lesbian, and many churches whole heartily supporting that movement!

incorrect. their attempts to redefine marriage are futile unless we give them that power. They cannot take that away from us through votes.

The Bible states what marriage is, and we are to follow that first and foremost. Anything outside that, is a lie.
 

Yeshua1

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incorrect. their attempts to redefine marriage are futile unless we give them that power. They cannot take that away from us through votes.

The Bible states what marriage is, and we are to follow that first and foremost. Anything outside that, is a lie.

Areyou saying that states have not made that legal now? And that the FedGovt is well on its way doing that?
 

pk4life

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Areyou saying that states have not made that legal now? And that the FedGovt is well on its way doing that?

I'm saying if they do that, their definition of marriage, is then a lie.

It is an impossibility to have such a thing be marriage... as it's directly against what the Bible teaches marriage to be.
 

pk4life

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Asking for one to drop God from a conversation about marriage seems to be on par with asking the question "Why are oranges square?" ... and attempting to dismiss anyone who tells you that they're round.
 

Yeshua1

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I'm saying if they do that, their definition of marriage, is then a lie.

It is an impossibility to have such a thing be marriage... as it's directly against what the Bible teaches marriage to be.

marriage should be as God has already defined it as being, but it is also what the culture/society defines it as being!

Muslims can have up to 4 wives, so that would be legal in islamic nations!
 

Yeshua1

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Marriage is law. It defines valid and legitimate statutes.

think that while the l can and has defined what marriage is seen as being, that gay marriages are NOT seen in sight of God though as being "legit!"
 

Aaron

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gay marriages are NOT seen in sight of God though as being "legit!"
Nor in the sight of nature. There is no excuse, just as there is no excuse for the sin of murder, or theft. And there is no excuse for those who attempt to mitigate the offenses of Sodom. Homosexuality is the ultimate rebellion against nature and nature's God, and is not a matter of freedom of religion. It is something that a right civil government has and should put down.
 

Yeshua1

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Nor in the sight of nature. There is no excuse, just as there is no excuse for the sin of murder, or theft. And there is no excuse for those who attempt to mitigate the offenses of Sodom. Homosexuality is the ultimate rebellion against nature and nature's God, and is not a matter of freedom of religion. It is something that a right civil government has and should put down.

Amen!

Thinks its similiar to when we in the body have accepted as being the truth things such as theistic evolution, jesus just a way to God, Bible not really inspired, and gay marriage all right, as those ALL happen when we start taking the cultural views over biblical one!

God wants us to have a biblical mindset, and influence our culture from that world view, but alas, many have done the other way, as the world view held by the lost creeps into our view instead!
 

Zaac

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Nor in the sight of nature. There is no excuse, just as there is no excuse for the sin of murder, or theft. And there is no excuse for those who attempt to mitigate the offenses of Sodom.

AMEN! Cause everybody who holds to what Scripture actually says will testify that the offenses of Sodom were great, but no specific sin was mentioned in Scripture.

Homosexuality is the ultimate rebellion against nature and nature's God, and is not a matter of freedom of religion.

Opinion that does nothing more than drive a wedge between the folks who need Jesus and the folks who are supposed to be introducing them to Him.
 
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Yeshua1

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AMEN! Cause everybody who holds to what Scripture actually says will testify that the offenses of Sodom were great, but no specific sin was mentioned in Scripture.



Opinion that does nothing more than drive a wedge between the folks who need Jesus and the folks who are supposed to be introducing them to Him.

bible CLEARLY stated that their great sin was lusting after strange flesh, for sexual peerversions, and for wanting to have sex with same sex, so what would you call it then?
 

Zaac

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bible CLEARLY stated that their great sin was lusting after strange flesh, for sexual peerversions, and for wanting to have sex with same sex, so what would you call it then?

And where does the Bible clearly state this?
 
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