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Maricopa County Heating Up

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Scott Downey

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While Jon the Conservative argues elsewhere that our rights flow from government and not from God, and that government act establishes truth--Heaven help the soul here that points out the Leftist leaning--something came through my newsfeed that I cannot not post here.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...ay_be_the_pebble_that_diverts_the_stream.html

I've shied away from reporting on events in Maricopa because it would require more hours than I have in a day to track intelligently the back-and-forth in that recount. My touchstone there is the fact that the Democrats' and NeverTrumps' ferocious efforts to stop the count strike me as the actions of people with something to hide. Otherwise, they'd be there helping to prove they're right. Events in a small town in New Hampshire, though, are more interesting, because a low-key audit may reveal serious election anomalies harming Republicans.

Windham, New Hampshire, a town of 14,853 people, has long been a stalwart Republican stronghold in an otherwise Democrat state. As was the case throughout New Hampshire, it relied on AccuVote machines to collect and tally its 2020 votes.

When the election in Windham ended, Kristi St. Laurent, the Democrat candidate, had lost by only 24 votes. With that close a margin, she naturally demanded a hand recount.

The hand recount revealed something peculiar: St. Laurent hadn't lost by 24 votes; she'd lost by 420 votes. In a small election, that meant that her margin of defeat wasn't 0.005% but was, instead, 9.6%, which is a significant loss.

That same recount revealed an even greater anomaly: across the board, in every Windham election, Republicans had been shortchanged, and Democrats had been overcounted:
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Those kinds of numbers manifestly demanded a full recount, which is what's happening now in Windham. And as with counts and recounts elsewhere, funny things are happening — not funny-ha-ha, but funny-peculiar:​
I see the pattern that democrat votes are overcounted, and republican votes undercounted often, not just here. There was a news blip recently how voting machines were rejecting republicans votes cast for republican candidates.
Voting machines are obviously calculating machines, not tabulators. They are supposed to be tabulators only.
My view is republican politicians are more careful to uphold biblical ideas in their politics, while democrats support the devil's ideas openly and with no reservations.
Politicians own personal lives might not be so great, but it is the platform ideologies I want to support, not their individual life choices. Due to that, I can never vote for a democrat, I will always when I vote, vote for republicans. I also want less big government, the large socialist government control the democrats want applied to every single thing.
 

Scott Downey

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They also are becoming more communistic in their thinking. Look at what the woke youth are trying to do. Like stores in Maine had to close because the workers were mad about capitalism.

Dollar General Store Closes After Employees Quit En Masse, Post Protest Signs on Front Door (westernjournal.com)

Then a daughter of one of the 'squad' democrats comes out openly demanding a communist revolution, and she manages her mothers social media accounts, these people think alike. The goal of Socialism is just one step on the path towards the desired communism.
Ilhan Omar's daughter, a prominent climate activist, adds communist hammer and sickle to Twitter bio (yahoo.com)
Democrats aghast at outing as communists - Washington Times

MSM news wont talk about this as they like it, they are all socialists aspiring toward communism ideals. That is the LEFT. They also HATE religion, Christianity especially so, that should tell you about the demonic forces working in their ideas.
 

just-want-peace

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My view is republican politicians are more careful to uphold biblical ideas in their politics, while democrats support the devil's ideas openly and with no reservations. -------

Anyone, ANYONE, who knows squat about the dem policies KNOW the above is accurate. This is precisely the reason anyone claiming to be a dem AND indwelt with the Holy Spirit is questioned about their salvation.

Anti-Christian, anti-moral, anti USA, anti-biblical, anti-common sense, yada, yada, yada = platform of the dems.

I would love to see a list of reasons that a Christian can support the dems & their platform!

Edited to add:
I'm interested in actual deeds from the left. NOT WHAT THEY CLAIM in their public pronouncements for the sheeple, but actual policies/programs that really & truly benefit OTHER than leftists!!!
 
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RighteousnessTemperance&

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They also are becoming more communistic in their thinking. Look at what the woke youth are trying to do. Like stores in Maine had to close because the workers were mad about capitalism.

Dollar General Store Closes After Employees Quit En Masse, Post Protest Signs on Front Door (westernjournal.com)

Then a daughter of one of the 'squad' democrats comes out openly demanding a communist revolution, and she manages her mothers social media accounts, these people think alike. The goal of Socialism is just one step on the path towards the desired communism.
Ilhan Omar's daughter, a prominent climate activist, adds communist hammer and sickle to Twitter bio (yahoo.com)
Democrats aghast at outing as communists - Washington Times

MSM news wont talk about this as they like it, they are all socialists aspiring toward communism ideals. That is the LEFT. They also HATE religion, Christianity especially so, that should tell you about the demonic forces working in their ideas.
It is their definition of Progress.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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:Rolleyes Trump: "Breaking News! New polling by CBS News on the state of the Republican Party (which is very strong!). “President Trump has a strong hold on the GOP.” 80% of Republicans agree with the removal of Liz Cheney from GOP Leadership and only 20% disagree. The poll also showed that 67% of Republicans said that they do not consider Sleepy Joe Biden to be the legitimate winner of the 2020 Presidential Election. I agree with them 100%, just look at the facts and the data—there is no way he won the 2020 Presidential Election!"
It’s not hard to guess how the Dem MSM will be using this information. They know they need to keep the focus off of the great damage they are continuing to do to America.
 
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JonC

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While Jon the Conservative argues elsewhere that our rights flow from government and not from God, and that government act establishes truth--Heaven help the soul here that points out the Leftist leaning--something came through my newsfeed that I cannot not post here.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...ay_be_the_pebble_that_diverts_the_stream.html

I've shied away from reporting on events in Maricopa because it would require more hours than I have in a day to track intelligently the back-and-forth in that recount. My touchstone there is the fact that the Democrats' and NeverTrumps' ferocious efforts to stop the count strike me as the actions of people with something to hide. Otherwise, they'd be there helping to prove they're right. Events in a small town in New Hampshire, though, are more interesting, because a low-key audit may reveal serious election anomalies harming Republicans.

Windham, New Hampshire, a town of 14,853 people, has long been a stalwart Republican stronghold in an otherwise Democrat state. As was the case throughout New Hampshire, it relied on AccuVote machines to collect and tally its 2020 votes.

When the election in Windham ended, Kristi St. Laurent, the Democrat candidate, had lost by only 24 votes. With that close a margin, she naturally demanded a hand recount.

The hand recount revealed something peculiar: St. Laurent hadn't lost by 24 votes; she'd lost by 420 votes. In a small election, that meant that her margin of defeat wasn't 0.005% but was, instead, 9.6%, which is a significant loss.

That same recount revealed an even greater anomaly: across the board, in every Windham election, Republicans had been shortchanged, and Democrats had been overcounted:

229583_5_.png


Those kinds of numbers manifestly demanded a full recount, which is what's happening now in Windham. And as with counts and recounts elsewhere, funny things are happening — not funny-ha-ha, but funny-peculiar:​
Wrong (again...go figure...birds of a feather :Laugh ).

My argument is that we have rights as citizens of a secular government that are given to all within that nation.

BUT as Christians we also have rights as heirs of the Kingdom (one being the right to be called children of God).

I know you (and @Wingman68 ) disagree but your opinions have no effect on facts (yes, I accept Scripture as fact....I know..."how unscientific of me").

But the fact is we have rights as Christians that exceed those given to all citizens of the United States. You and @Wingman68 are simply wrong and your position is biblically unsustainable.
 

Aaron

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Wrong (again...go figure...birds of a feather :Laugh ).

My argument is that we have rights as citizens of a secular government that are given to all within that nation.

BUT as Christians we also have rights as heirs of the Kingdom (one being the right to be called children of God).

I know you (and @Wingman68 ) disagree but your opinions have no effect on facts (yes, I accept Scripture as fact....I know..."how unscientific of me").

But the fact is we have rights as Christians that exceed those given to all citizens of the United States. You and @Wingman68 are simply wrong and your position is biblically unsustainable.
What rot.

I'll show it later. Got things to do and people to see.
 

Benjamin

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I live in Maricopa County and very proud of the courage to work to expose the truth of what in went on in the election not only in Arizona but across the country. I don't waste my time following all the rhetoric out there but simply track Dr. Kelli Ward, who is a straight shooter and tells it like it is, while I pray for justice and truth to prevail.

 

Aaron

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Wrong (again...go figure...birds of a feather :Laugh ).

My argument is that we have rights as citizens of a secular government that are given to all within that nation.

BUT as Christians we also have rights as heirs of the Kingdom (one being the right to be called children of God).

I know you (and @Wingman68 ) disagree but your opinions have no effect on facts (yes, I accept Scripture as fact....I know..."how unscientific of me").

But the fact is we have rights as Christians that exceed those given to all citizens of the United States. You and @Wingman68 are simply wrong and your position is biblically unsustainable.
First, you have to stop confusing heaven and earth. You keep citing certain things that are said of those who are in Christ, as if it applies to life in earth. In Christ, there is no male or female, but that is not true in earth. In earth, there is male and female, and there is marriage.

And so the liberty that is in Christ, is not something that can be realized in the earth except as it fulfills the law of God, which is in earth, not in heaven. "Though shalt not commit adultery" does not apply in heaven, because, in heaven, there is no male or female, and there is no marriage.

The law is in earth, and as we are in earth, we are under the law. It still governs our natural lives, and not ours only, but of all men, who are in the earth.

Until you learn to stop confusing heaven and earth, you will never really understand human rights or the work of Christ, or the Christian's place in civil government.

God's law is universal, and as God has created all, all by virtue of his creation is under the protections that law provides . One is the protection of innocent life, called in the DOI the right to life. Though shalt do no murder applies as much to governments. Let every soul be subject to the higher powers. Another is the protection of liberty, Thou shalt not steal. Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? And the protection of one's happiness, or estate, Thou shalt not covet anything that is thy neighbor's
 

percho

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Wrong (again...go figure...birds of a feather :Laugh ).

My argument is that we have rights as citizens of a secular government that are given to all within that nation.

BUT as Christians we also have rights as heirs of the Kingdom (one being the right to be called children of God).

I know you (and @Wingman68 ) disagree but your opinions have no effect on facts (yes, I accept Scripture as fact....I know..."how unscientific of me").

But the fact is we have rights as Christians that exceed those given to all citizens of the United States. You and @Wingman68 are simply wrong and your position is biblically unsustainable.


that also the creation itself shall be set free from the servitude of the corruption to the liberty of the glory of the children of God; Rom 8:21


W H E N ?
 

JonC

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that also the creation itself shall be set free from the servitude of the corruption to the liberty of the glory of the children of God; Rom 8:21


W H E N ?
When that hope we have, that we patiently wait for, is fulfilled.
 

Gold Dragon

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Anyone, ANYONE, who knows squat about the dem policies KNOW the above is accurate. This is precisely the reason anyone claiming to be a dem AND indwelt with the Holy Spirit is questioned about their salvation.

Anti-Christian, anti-moral, anti USA, anti-biblical, anti-common sense, yada, yada, yada = platform of the dems.

I would love to see a list of reasons that a Christian can support the dems & their platform!

Edited to add:
I'm interested in actual deeds from the left. NOT WHAT THEY CLAIM in their public pronouncements for the sheeple, but actual policies/programs that really & truly benefit OTHER than leftists!!!

Biblical values I would use to judge how consistent or inconsistent politicians and their party are with Christianity and the Bible include:

1) love your neighbour as yourself (Mark 12:31)
2) sacrifice yourself for and love those who love you as well as those who hate you (Matthew 5:44)
3) care for the poor, vulnerable, different and persecuted (Matthew 25:34-46)
4) seek peace and oppose war/conflict (Matthew 5:9, Romans 12:18)
5) welcoming to foreingers (Hebrews 13:2, Leviticus 19:33-34)
6) seeking the truth over misinformation that reinforces their incorrect beliefs (2 Peter 2:3, 2 Timothy 4:3-4)
7) not add requirements to the gospel like political affiliation and political ideas (John 3:16, Romans 14:13)
8) encourage generosity over the love of money (1 Timothy 6:10, Matthew 6:24, Acts of the Apostles 4:32-35)
9) discourage systems that lock people in generational poverty (Deuteronomy 15:1-2, Leviticus 19:9)
 
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Benjamin

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Despite all the disingenuous attempts to stop the audit from those opposed to drawing out the truth of what happened in our election, it is back to work tomorrow.

 

percho

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When that hope we have, that we patiently wait for, is fulfilled.

A. And Jesus said to them, 'Verily I say to you, that ye who did follow me, in the regeneration, when the Son of Man may sit upon a throne of his glory, shall sit -- ye also -- upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel; Matt 19:28

B. Romans 8:19 for the earnest looking out of the creation doth expect the revelation of the sons of God; Luke 20:35,36 “But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; “nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. Matt 19:28 And Jesus said to them, 'Verily I say to you, that ye who did follow me, in the regeneration, when the Son of Man may sit upon a throne of his glory, shall sit -- ye also -- upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel; Rom 8:23 And not only so, but also we ourselves, having the first-fruit of the Spirit, we also ourselves in ourselves do groan, adoption (son ship) expecting -- the redemption of our body;

Are all of those in bold in B. the fulfilling of that, hope? Is that when all of creation will also share in liberty?

That is my concept and understanding of, the kingdom of God. Of, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
 

777

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The audit in Arizona is back on - they stopped it for graduation ceremonies that always took place in the building, and they hope to be done by the end of June (they were supposed to be done in early May):

Arizona audit: What to know as ballot recount resumed Monday

if that's true, they're not even a fourth of the way done yet, but they've amped up the operation. They're also looking into election theft in Georgia:

FULL Digital Audit of ALL Absentee Ballots in Corrupt Fulton County Ordered by Judge . . . - The Liberty Daily

and NH. among other places:

New Hampshire Auditors Say Vote Discrepancies Largely Caused by Ballot Fold Effect

Election theft? CNN sez :WHAT ELECTION THEFT?????
 

Revmitchell

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Biblical values I would use to judge how consistent or inconsistent politicians and their party are with Christianity and the Bible include:

1) love your neighbour as yourself (Mark 12:31)
2) sacrifice yourself for and love those who love you as well as those who hate you (Matthew 5:44)
3) care for the poor, vulnerable, different and persecuted (Matthew 25:34-46)
4) seek peace and oppose war/conflict (Matthew 5:9, Romans 12:18)
5) welcoming to foreingers (Hebrews 13:2, Leviticus 19:33-34)
6) seeking the truth over misinformation that reinforces their incorrect beliefs (2 Peter 2:3, 2 Timothy 4:3-4)
7) not add requirements to the gospel like political affiliation and political ideas (John 3:16, Romans 14:13)
8) encourage generosity over the love of money (1 Timothy 6:10, Matthew 6:24, Acts of the Apostles 4:32-35)
9) discourage systems that lock people in generational poverty (Deuteronomy 15:1-2, Leviticus 19:9)

looks like an entire list of why one should not belong to the Democrat party
 

JonC

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A. And Jesus said to them, 'Verily I say to you, that ye who did follow me, in the regeneration, when the Son of Man may sit upon a throne of his glory, shall sit -- ye also -- upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel; Matt 19:28

B. Romans 8:19 for the earnest looking out of the creation doth expect the revelation of the sons of God; Luke 20:35,36 “But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; “nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. Matt 19:28 And Jesus said to them, 'Verily I say to you, that ye who did follow me, in the regeneration, when the Son of Man may sit upon a throne of his glory, shall sit -- ye also -- upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel; Rom 8:23 And not only so, but also we ourselves, having the first-fruit of the Spirit, we also ourselves in ourselves do groan, adoption (son ship) expecting -- the redemption of our body;

Are all of those in bold in B. the fulfilling of that, hope? Is that when all of creation will also share in liberty?

That is my concept and understanding of, the kingdom of God. Of, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
All will not enter the Kingdom of God. And we do not enter by entitlement but by grace.
 
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