Michael being Jesus

[HisWitness]

"Already happened and death is destroyed."

Someone send me a shovel, my grandmother must be trying to get out of that grave.

"Already happened."

Then this means when we go to the grave, there his no hope whatsoever of rising again.

"Yes"

What about Michael? Is he deity?

"Yes and no"

Please explain.

1st one is because you don't really know what the DEATH passed from adam really was ???

 

[HisWitness]

no, but I see a problem with yours.
Michael was given that position. Michael commands the angels while Jesus sits on His throne

Christ commands the earthly while Michael has authority over Christ and controls heavenly---this is what your view supports:godisgood:

 

[Steadfast Fred]

Christ commands the earthly while Michael has authority over Christ and controls heavenly---this is what your view supports:godisgood:

You really ought to take your comedy act on the road.

 

[DHK]

Christ commands the earthly while Michael has authority over Christ and controls heavenly---this is what your view supports:godisgood:

The ONE who sits on the Throne, Christ, is the King of kings, Lord of lords, to whom every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that He is Lord to the glory of the Father. He is Lord over both Heaven and earth, the Supreme Power and Sovereign over all.
All authority in heaven and in earth has been given to Him.

Your statement makes no sense.

 

[Steadfast Fred]

The ONE who sits on the Throne, Christ, is the King of kings, Lord of lords, to whom every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that He is Lord to the glory of the Father. He is Lord over both Heaven and earth, the Supreme Power and Sovereign over all.
All authority in heaven and in earth has been given to Him.

Your statement makes no sense.

HW was trying to twist and distort my words... just as he does with the Word of God.

I had already said Christ sits on His throne while Michael commands the angels. But HW has an agenda.

His is nowhere near a Baptist doctrine.

 

[preacher4truth]

Angels are created beings.

HW is saying that Christ was created?

 

[Steadfast Fred]

Angels are created beings.

HW is saying that Christ was created?

That's what he is saying, yes.

 

[Revmitchell]

Christ commands the earthly while Michael has authority over Christ and controls heavenly---this is what your view supports:godisgood:

No reasonable person would have construed his words that way. You need to behave yourself.

 

[preacher4truth]

That's what he is saying, yes.

Such a belief isn't Baptist. I didn't know BB allowed Baptists to deny the deity of Christ.

 

[convicted1]

How in the name of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, is he still on here? One thing's for certain, the mods are consistent.......

 

[Steadfast Fred]

How in the name of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, is he still on here? One thing's for certain, the mods are consistent.......

HW may say he is a Baptist in his profile, but for the longest time he has been teaching doctrines that clearly are anything but Baptistic.

 

[HisWitness]

Such a belief isn't Baptist. I didn't know BB allowed Baptists to deny the deity of Christ.

Spurgeon did the same thing---is he a heretic also ? what I mean is he didn't deny Christ's deity but said that Michael was Jesus--he said they were 1 in the same person--deity

 

[HisWitness]

You really ought to take your comedy act on the road.

no comedy act friend--according to your view--you give Michael the authority over Christ and say Christ can only handle earthly armies and cant maintain his heavenly host while he also sits on his throne..

when the scriptures says that Christ has the authority over ALL principalities and powers in heaven and earth..

you have completely bashed the authority of Christ and given an angel authority over him ..... :love2::love2:

 

[DHK]

no comedy act friend--according to your view--you give Michael the authority over Christ and say Christ can only handle earthly armies and cant maintain his heavenly host while he also sits on his throne..

when the scriptures says that Christ has the authority over ALL principalities and powers in heaven and earth..

you have completely bashed the authority of Christ and given an angel authority over him ..... :love2::love2:

You are wrong. His view is the same as mine, and you haven't answered it.
Here it is again:

The ONE who sits on the Throne, Christ, is the King of kings, Lord of lords, to whom every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that He is Lord to the glory of the Father. He is Lord over both Heaven and earth, the Supreme Power and Sovereign over all.
All authority in heaven and in earth has been given to Him.

Your statement makes no sense.

This was addressed to you.
This is who Christ is today.
Your view falls far short of this. Ours does not.

 

[HisWitness]

The ONE who sits on the Throne, Christ, is the King of kings, Lord of lords, to whom every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that He is Lord to the glory of the Father. He is Lord over both Heaven and earth, the Supreme Power and Sovereign over all.
All authority in heaven and in earth has been given to Him.

Your statement makes no sense.

exactly true is your post friend--StedFred has given authority to Michael over Christ--in saying Christ can only command earthly armies and while he sits on his throne has to have an angel to command his heavenly host..

In saying this Sted has given the authority of an angel over the authority of Christ the Lord.... according to the view he holds---Christ does NOT have the Glory nor Power...............:tonofbricks::tonofbricks:

 

[HisWitness]

Angels are created beings.

HW is saying that Christ was created?

Christ was NOT created he is Deity --- :wavey::wavey:

 

[HisWitness]

How in the name of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, is he still on here? One thing's for certain, the mods are consistent.......

how are you still alive and breathing the fresh air of the Living God ???

just because you think you are perfect and upright and have no error doesn't make you worthy no more than it does me---we both ought to be in the grave with our neck broke :love2::love2::love2:

 

[HisWitness]

It has? What is your description of death being destroyed? Because I've seen numerous people pass away in the last few months and it seemed pretty real to me.

we can make a new thread--why don't you start it friend on DEATH---and well discuss that broad topic on a new thread :jesus::jesus:

 

[HisWitness]

You are wrong. His view is the same as mine, and you haven't answered it.
Here it is again:

This was addressed to you.
This is who Christ is today.
Your view falls far short of this. Ours does not.

okie dokie--you have the right to believe as you choose to do so friend :godisgood::godisgood:

 

[agedman]

Spurgeon did the same thing---is he a heretic also ? what I mean is he didn't deny Christ's deity but said that Michael was Jesus--he said they were 1 in the same person--deity

I have read much that Spurgeon wrote and preached, and have yet to read anything of such you claim.


I will restate: No where do I find that Spurgeon EVER said that Michael was Jesus.


Unless you can post the exact document and cite the source, the support you desire from Spurgeon for your argument is not credible.