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Mistakes, lies, false witness,and such sins..

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Reformed

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Do you ever post to the right person in the wrong thread? (It seems that that's be easy to do on tapa-talk)
No. The threads are easily distinguished.



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Reformed

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I don't have to go there much anymore. Assignments have been elsewhere for the past year, which is a good thing.

The next time to go to Odenton look up the Hunan L'Rose Chinese Restaurant. It's 5 minutes from Ft. Meade in the Odenton Shopping Center. Phenomenal Chinese food.

OK. Back to the topic at hand.
 

JonC

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Back to topic – I hate to use the words of an Anglican bishop because last time about all of the Calvinists here wanted to tar and feather me for suggesting an Anglican could be Reformed and my fellow Baptists wanted me burned at the stake for referencing an Anglican at all. :eek: But it is a good quote.

An Anglican bishop once wrote “Let us resolve to talk more to believers about the Bible when we meet them. Alas, the conversation of Christians, when they do meet, is often sadly unprofitable! How many frivolous, and trifling, and uncharitable things are said!” (J.C. Ryle, Consider Your Ways)

Another example is Charles Sheldon's book "In His Steps" (where we get the slogan "what would Jesus do"), which is an outstanding book. Let's have the "mind of Christ". Approach one another in the spirit of serving a brother instead of conquering him.

I think that the attitude of this Anglican bishop and this Christian socialist would solve many of the issues that occur between Christians. While we may reject their theology we should be able to appreciate Christ in them and follow Him in our dealings with one another. Christ transcends theological divides among Christians.
 

Revmitchell

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Back to topic – I hate to use the words of an Anglican bishop because last time about all of the Calvinists here wanted to tar and feather me for suggesting an Anglican could be Reformed and my fellow Baptists wanted me burned at the stake for referencing an Anglican at all. :eek: But it is a good quote.

An Anglican bishop once wrote “Let us resolve to talk more to believers about the Bible when we meet them. Alas, the conversation of Christians, when they do meet, is often sadly unprofitable! How many frivolous, and trifling, and uncharitable things are said!” (J.C. Ryle, Consider Your Ways)

Another example is Charles Sheldon's book "In His Steps" (where we get the slogan "what would Jesus do"), which is an outstanding book. Let's have the "mind of Christ". Approach one another in the spirit of serving a brother instead of conquering him.

I think that the attitude of this Anglican bishop and this Christian socialist would solve many of the issues that occur between Christians. While we may reject their theology we should be able to appreciate Christ in them and follow Him in our dealings with one another.


Kind of hard to do when ones attitude is the "skip the niceties" when responding to people.
 

JonC

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Kind of hard to do when ones attitude is the "skip the niceties" when responding to people.
It is. But I suppose it is not supposed to be easy. I cannot tell you how many times I've had to let false accusations and insults go without responding. But I can tell you it is far less a number than it should be.
 

Revmitchell

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It is. But I suppose it is not supposed to be easy. I cannot tell you how many times I've had to let false accusations and insults go without responding. But I can tell you it is far less a number than it should be.

I did not mean it is hard to ignore them. I meant it is hard for those people who feel they need to "skip the niceties" to hold that attitude.
 

Jerome

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Anyone else ever accidentally select a random rating symbol while cell phone browsing? when swiping up or down on the small screen?
I'm sure there are times I haven't caught it...
 
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JonC

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Anyone else ever accidentally select a random rating symbol while cell phone browsing? when swiping up or down on the small screen?
I'm sure there are time's I haven't caught it...
A bunch of times.
 

Jerome

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When we sign up here, we're told: "The board has an edit button enabled. We encourage you to use it and edit your own words."

So I don't get all this, "Well I want to argue about what you had second thoughts about posting and redacted!" stuff.
 

JonC

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Sin begins in the heart and mind of a person. I think sometimes people (even Christians) just want to hate someone so they look for a reason to hate someone. I guess the flesh is something we must struggle with in this lifetime, but it is something with which we must struggle. As John Owen wrote, be killing sin or it will be killing you.
 

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It could be an error like @McCree79 wrote about. It could be ignorance or even a lie. Are you bothered if people follow you on a message board?
I am not bothered by any person following me unless there is some nefarious activity that follows.
Acts 24:16 has proven valuable in thinking that out..
I do not post unless I am prepared to back it up or I would not have posted it in the first place.
I do not remove my posts unless it is a double post. I will edit if auto correct changes what I said.
I will edit where God or Lord is not a capital letter.
I never post, remove the post,then say there was no post,and suggest someone made it up, has emotional problems, was hallucinating, etc.
Only to later admit reluctantly that the post did indeed exist in the first place.
Where I come from that would be a lie.A person doing this repeatedly would be known as a liar.
 

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When we sign up here, we're told: "The board has an edit button enabled. We encourage you to use it and edit your own words."w

So I don't get all this, "Well I want to argue about what you had second thoughts about posting and redacted!" stuff.
In order to get it truth would need to be very important to you.Even more important than posting about a professed Christian who sadly has fallen into sin to put his profession of faith in doubt.
Truth should be what we are about with a view to edify.
To go after a person to bite and devour without any cause demonstrates an emotional and perhaps mental defect that needs help.
 

JonC

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I do not post unless I am prepared to back it up or I would not have posted it in the first place.
I do not remove my posts unless it is a double post.

Perhaps we all should be careful not to impose our ideas and practices on other people. There is a reason that the board allows people to edit and revise (or even remove entirely) their posts. Often when people post (especially on a mobile device “on the fly”) they review their post and sometimes determine it did not come across as they had desired.

I understand you want your original post to stand. I am not sure why, if you determine it is not reflective of your intent, but I understand that to be a valuable trait to you.

For an example to consider – I greatly appreciate C.H. Spurgeon and reading his sermons. Many are not aware that the sermons we read are not actually the sermons Spurgeon preached. Spurgeon wrote his published sermons based on his preaching but they are revised versions of what was actually said.

We have to be careful not to fault people for not appreciating our nuanced preferences. There is nothing wrong with wanting your original words, regardless of accuracy, to be posted. But there is also nothing wrong with refining your posts to better reflect what you want to communicate. I prefer the latter as I think it provides greater clarity, but I do not impose that on other people (some may be dismayed that Spurgeon's sermons were not actually the words spoken from the pulpit, but I appreciate he took the time to refine for print).

Many times I see people have deleted their own posts (I can see the deletions). My first impression is "well done". I do not want anyone to think that this is not acceptable behavior. This is why we have an edit feature. Perhaps if people used it more often the board would be a better place.
 

Reformed

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I am not bothered by any person following me unless there is some nefarious activity that follows.
Acts 24:16 has proven valuable in thinking that out..
I do not post unless I am prepared to back it up or I would not have posted it in the first place.
I do not remove my posts unless it is a double post. I will edit if auto correct changes what I said.
I will edit where God or Lord is not a capital letter.
I never post, remove the post,then say there was no post,and suggest someone made it up, has emotional problems, was hallucinating, etc.
Only to later admit reluctantly that the post did indeed exist in the first place.
Where I come from that would be a lie.A person doing this repeatedly would be known as a liar.

Brother, I would hope all of us would post that way. Let our yes be yes and our no be no. I am a stickler for grammar and punctuation I will go back and edit a post for that reason.
 

Reformed

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Many times I see people have deleted their own posts (I can see the deletions). My first impression is "well done". I do not want anyone to think that this is not acceptable behavior. This is why we have an edit feature. Perhaps if people used it more often the board would be a better place.
I am an administrator on another board and I can see what we deem as "soft" deletions. Only moderators or admins can make hard deletions. No one has a post edited or deleted without being told why. Sometimes certain individuals use the delete feature often. While it may seem humorous, it also shows they are trying to be circumspect in their online speech and do not want to post something that they may regret. I appreciate a brother or sister who takes James 3 to heart.
 

JonC

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I am an administrator on another board and I can see what we deem as "soft" deletions. Only moderators or admins can make hard deletions. No one has a post edited or deleted without being told why. Sometimes certain individuals use the delete feature often. While it may seem humorous, it also shows they are trying to be circumspect in their online speech and do not want to post something that they may regret. I appreciate a brother or sister who takes James 3 to heart.
Here we do not "hard delete". The posts and edits are always there. And if I recall there is a time limit in edit and delete feature. My rule of thumb is not to delete anything that has already been referenced (one's own posts) .

I have not seen any issues on this board with people editing or deleting their posts (except perhaps when some posts were not edited or deleted).
 

JonC

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What is interesting with this thread is we are ultimately preaching to the choir.

I think that we all can benefit by looking at our interactions on forums (if we cannot learn from one another we probably simply cannot learn). But the fact is I doubt any of us here are liars, false witnesses (intentionally), or mastered by sin. That said we can all make mistakes and should uplift one another and strengthen one another in Christ.

I think that the important thing to keep in mind with online forums is that we do not know one another, cannot judge one another, cannot discern one another’s motives/ intent, and are incapable of discerning what another person understands of the Scripture beyond what that person says.

So what do we do? We interact as Christians with the posts (what is written by the member) and we discuss/ argue/ fellowship around doctrine.

I have seen times when Christians treat other people as if they were not Christians (as if they were instead liars, deceivers, etc.), but that is nothing but trampling the blood of Christ and denying the power of God. I know sometimes arguments get heated, but are adults and Christians. We should master our emotions rather than allowing our emotions to master us.
 

JonC

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Refing is fine. Clarifying is not a problem
I agree. Not only is refining and clarifying appropriate but it is necessary to facilitate any meaningful communication. Not only do I believe this in terms of people revising or removing posts they deem not to be effective communication but I think that this is the way we should engage one another.

I do not believe that this type of forum is designed to proselytize but to understand. We should engage each other to better comprehend where the other person is coming from, what they believe, and why they believe it. That does not mean we adopt their views. I have probably learned more from people's views that I will never hold than I have from people that I agree with. I think it is often this way. Iron sharpens iron (or as Spurgeon illustrated, the rocks in the stream are worn smooth by natural friction).

I encourage people here to learn about other people's views and how/ why they hold them. Also I think it is important to always re-examine our own views. If our views are correct then they stand the text. If not, then we make them correct as best we can.
 
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