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Yeshua1

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I'm prolife, abortion laws fall under protecting citizens from direct and immediate harm.
Gay being immoral is a purely religious standard

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So God did not tell us what type of marriage he views as being legit and real?
 

evenifigoalone

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So God did not tell us what type of marriage he views as being legit and real?
Good grief.
Yes, I believe gay sex and marriage is a sin. But as I've said repeatedly, I do not believe our government should be based on Christianity.

Tell me, do you support freedom of religion?

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Yeshua1

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Good grief.
Yes, I believe gay sex and marriage is a sin. But as I've said repeatedly, I do not believe our government should be based on Christianity.

Tell me, do you support freedom of religion?

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I do see upholding the moral standards of God being religious laws, as they were meant for all peoples!
 

MartyF

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From the Encyclopedia Britannica:
Were the Nazis Socialists?

Hitler allied himself with leaders of German conservative and nationalist movements, and in January 1933 German President Paul von Hindenburg appointed him chancellor. Hitler’s Third Reich had been born, and it was entirely fascist in character. Within two months Hitler achieved full dictatorial power through the Enabling Act. In April 1933 communists, socialists, democrats, and Jews were purged from the German civil service, and trade unions were outlawed the following month. That July Hitler banned all political parties other than his own, and prominent members of the German Communist Party and the Social Democratic Party were arrested and imprisoned in concentration camps. Lest there be any remaining questions about the political character of the Nazi revolution, Hitler ordered the murder of Gregor Strasser, an act that was carried out on June 30, 1934, during the Night of the Long Knives. Any remaining traces of socialist thought in the Nazi Party had been extinguished.

You’re still arguing a non-sequiter.

Your argument is Hitler opposed socialists therefore Hitler was not a socialist.

It’s a silly argument by a silly discredited Encyclopedia.

Look at these articles about Ty Cobb.

Ty Cobb - Wikipedia

Ty Cobb | American athlete

Author says Cobb's reputation built on tales

Britannica is obviously a hack. Yep, even Wikipedia is better. But don’t go quoting Wikipedia for a controversial political issue either because that would be equally stupid.

Socialists have always said, “True socialism hasn’t been tried yet!” and therefore are always trying to say that all these leaders weren’t actually socialists.
 

evenifigoalone

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Actually, I can point to the examples in history, such as witch trials and the Puritans. The different denominations also have a history of persecuting each other over not following their respective doctrines. History has shown us that humans cannot be trusted to uphold religious laws without inviting extremists.

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Yeshua1

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I have, and you seem to be saying that having "my freewill decisions" more important then obeying God!
 

evenifigoalone

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I have, and you seem to be saying that having "my freewill decisions" more important then obeying God!
No, I believe believers are to hold each other accountable for sins in their lives. Just not through the government.

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Yeshua1

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Not everyone is Christian. We cannot force non Christians to follow Christian principles. Laws don't change hearts.

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The moral standards of god are his guidelines to live by for a society, should we not have it illegal to steal, rape and murder?
 

FollowTheWay

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I just cannot fathom why a Christian would want our nation to enact as law things God say are abomination to Him!
Combining politics and Christianity is a FALSE gospel. Jesus came to establish the Kingdom of God not to support any country's politics. His birth, ministry, death and resurrection all support this. Read the New Testament.
 

Yeshua1

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Combining politics and Christianity is a FALSE gospel. Jesus came to establish the Kingdom of God not to support any country's politics. His birth, ministry, death and resurrection all support this. Read the New Testament.
One can be an atheist nation and find out that obeying the moral standards of God work best!
 

FollowTheWay

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One can be an atheist nation and find out that obeying the moral standards of God work best!
There is no such thing as a Christian nation or an atheist nation. There are nations in which the majority proclaim themselves to be Christian but many or most of them are not.

[Mat 7:22 KJV] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[Mat 7:23 KJV] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 
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