"Modern Israel at 70"

[HankD]

That Kingdom is established by the Gospel of the LORD Jesus Christ in the hearts & lives of those who believe, practice & share the saving message. We look for redress when he returns to judge the world in righteousness, and establish the New Heavens & New Earth.

All fine and good C.
What happens when the followers of the "Religion of Peace" show up at your house to remove your head as they have done to some many others in other countries?

Personally I am (God willing) going to protect my love ones.

If that makes me a weak Christian so be it.

 

[Covenanter]

All fine and good C.
What happens when the followers of the "Religion of Peace" show up at your house to remove your head as they have done to some many others in other countries?

Personally I am (God willing) going to protect my love ones.

If that makes me a weak Christian so be it.

Acts 8 records that happening, & the Christian reaction:

1 .... At that time a great persecution arose against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles. 2 And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him.
3 As for Saul, he made havoc of the church, entering every house, and dragging off men and women, committing them to prison.
4 Therefore those who were scattered went everywhere preaching the word.​

 

[HankD]

Acts 8 records that happening, & the Christian reaction:

1 .... At that time a great persecution arose against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles. 2 And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him.
3 As for Saul, he made havoc of the church, entering every house, and dragging off men and women, committing them to prison.
4 Therefore those who were scattered went everywhere preaching the word.​

So?

 

[HankD]

Definition of pettifogger. 1 : a lawyer whose methods are petty, underhanded, or disreputable : shyster. 2 : one given to quibbling over trifles. —
Pettifogger | Definition of Pettifogger by Merriam-Webster
Definition of PETTIFOGGER

 

[HankD]

hmm. I just noticed one of the descriptions above is a vulgar term in Yiddish.

Shame on Merriam-Webster

 

[Covenanter]

All fine and good C.
What happens when the followers of the "Religion of Peace" show up at your house to remove your head as they have done to some many others in other countries?

Personally I am (God willing) going to protect my love ones.

If that makes me a weak Christian so be it.

Acts 8 records that happening, & the Christian reaction:

1 .... At that time a great persecution arose against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles. 2 And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him.
3 As for Saul, he made havoc of the church, entering every house, and dragging off men and women, committing them to prison.
4 Therefore those who were scattered went everywhere preaching the word.​

So?

How did the believers in Acts 8 act against the representatives of the "religion of peace" when they were persecuted?

Where in Acts & the letters do you read of Christians fighting off & killing the Jewish persecutors?

 

[HankD]

How did the believers in Acts 8 act against the representatives of the "religion of peace" when they were persecuted?

Where in Acts & the letters do you read of Christians fighting off & killing the Jewish persecutors?

That was then this is now.

I will provide protection for my church, my family and my country from evil doers.

1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

As a veteran if/when my country calls me to defend it:

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

 

[Baptist Believer]

That was then this is now.

I don't disagree with some of the things that follow this statement, but making a distinction between the obligations and attitudes of first disciples of Jesus and what is expected of us by Jesus now is a recipe for apostasy.

I don't buy the "pacifism at any cost" premise, but Jesus explicitly rejected the "eye for an eye" ethic that our President and many Christians have.

 

[HankD]

I don't disagree with some of the things that follow this statement, but making a distinction between the obligations and attitudes of first disciples of Jesus and what is expected of us by Jesus now is a recipe for apostasy.

So I am an apostate ( your accusation is by innuendo of course)?

Please answer yes or no.

 

[kyredneck]

That was then this is now.

No, it IS now. It's just that it's not allowed to be told HOW it is now. It's 'hateful speech' to point out the areas 'they' dominate and control, and 'their' Marxist agenda affects our freedoms.

 

[HankD]

No, it IS now. It's just that it's not allowed to be told HOW it is now. It's 'hateful speech' to point out the areas 'they' dominate and control, and how it all affects our freedoms.

They (apostles and living eye witnesses of Jesus in the flesh) had the apostolic command to evangelize the world and propagate the word of God then.

The revelation of God is now complete including Romans 13:1-4.

 

[Baptist Believer]

So I am an apostate ( your accusation is by innuendo of course)?

Wow. How did you go there? I said no such thing.

Please answer yes or no.

No. You must really have a low opinion of me to assume that I am attacking you by pointing out that you have said a troubling thing.

 

[HankD]

Wow. How did you go there? I said no such thing.


No. You must really have a low opinion of me to assume that I am attacking you by pointing out that you have said a troubling thing.

noun: innuendo; plural noun: innuendoes; plural noun: innuendos

1. an allusive or oblique remark or hint, typically a suggestive or disparaging one.

"he's always making sly innuendoes"

synonyms:

insinuation, suggestion, intimation, implication, hint, overtone, undertone, allusion, reference; More

aspersion, slur

My apologies for my direct accusation brother.

in the case of the innuendo being true and you believe I am an apostate then tell me directly please

 

[Baptist Believer]

noun: innuendo; plural noun: innuendoes; plural noun: innuendos

1. an allusive or oblique remark or hint, typically a suggestive or disparaging one.

"he's always making sly innuendoes"

synonyms:

insinuation, suggestion, intimation, implication, hint, overtone, undertone, allusion, reference; More

aspersion, slur

I know what an innuendo is. I was using the word in Middle School. Why do you assume everything I say has a disparaging innuendo against you or someone else? You need to realize that I am almost always straightforward in my communication. I like directness.

 

[kyredneck]

They (apostles and living eye witnesses of Jesus in the flesh) had the apostolic command to evangelize the world and propagate the word of God then.

The revelation of God is now complete including Romans 13:1-4.

???

Against Our Better Judgment: The Hidden History of How the U.S. Was Used to Create Israel

...by hook & crook, wile & guile, and outright treason; NOT the way our God does things.

 

[HankD]

???

Against Our Better Judgment: The Hidden History of How the U.S. Was Used to Create Israel

...by hook & crook, wile & guile, and outright treason; Not the way our God does things.

??? disconnect?

 

[kyredneck]

??? disconnect?

...probably...

 

[HankD]

I know what an innuendo is. I was using the word in Middle School. Why do you assume everything I say has a disparaging innuendo against you or someone else? You need to realize that I am almost always straightforward in my communication. I like directness.

Call me paranoid if you will but its an Alinsky trick to strike against the self confidence of a person to insult his/her persona by innuendo.

i will be more direct and question your motive in return/rebuttal (this is a debate forum).

OK you denied it, i have issued my apology. I apologize.

But if necessary I will rebut again.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Call me paranoid if you will but its an Alinsky trick to strike against the self confidence of a person to insult his/her persona by innuendo.

It is strange that I hear more about Saul Alinsky from Trump supporters than I've ever heard from anyone else. To be blunt, I had never heard of Saul Alinsky until the 2016 campaign.

Have you read his "Rules for Radicals?" I haven't.

 

[HankD]

It is strange that I hear more about Saul Alinsky from Trump supporters than I've ever heard from anyone else. To be blunt, I had never heard of Saul Alinsky until the 2016 campaign.

Have you read his "Rules for Radicals?" I haven't.

Yes - not EVERY single page Here is an online access.
https://chisineu.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/saul-alinsky-rules-for-radicals-1989.pdf

His tactics are well known and well used by Trump haters though I believe many/most know not the source of said tactics though they mightily use them.
They learn them by osmosis from clandestine Alinskyites.