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My Advice to President Trump

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Earth Wind and Fire

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I liked watching him.

For me politics is like sports. I decided I would not vote again, which would make some think I should not offer my views. But I do not have to play baseball to enjoy baseball games (BTW, the METS are gearing up for an interesting season).
Mets.... be ready to be ... well, let me not jinks it. Been watching them since 1965. Maybe the amazing will be the dream team again. Make The(or Da) to Mets Win Again!!!
 

Benjamin

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Surely it will be the opponents (Trump's) fault for every failure of Biden to come... I was waiting for that Leftist narrative, ...didn't take long.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I'll add, using the Baseball illustration:

The DNC vs the GOP would be like a 2020 World Series between the Padres and Marlins.

The GOP had such position, but blew it. Trump handed everything to the DNC. But it looks like they are going to blow it.

Neither side can win for losing.
Well it will take a very adept government that understands both the economy and understands people and their current plight. That will take backbone and intelligence. BTW, did I mention that I’m impressed with Katie Porter?
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Begging your pardon, but I totally disagree. I’ve been interacting with people in the liberal progressive movement who are very Bible and God driven... that includes women (surbarban white, working class black etc). The ones that are radical are the ones that have been ostracized by the religious right and they are very hostile and I consider that the fault of the religious right….
I cannot speak about the ones you've met, and I won't say the ones I've dialogued with are unsaved. But they are hellbent on pushing a social gospel rather than that of Jesus Christ. There are others I've met who are only superficially politically minded, thus easily swayed by the rhetoric of the Dem MSM and that of serious Progressive Leftists. They would certainly not care for your own radical capitalism nor your warmongering solutions.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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How DOWN-RIGHT accommodating amicable of you to keep an open mind like this about the incoming administration! I am SO impressed with your sense of reasoning and judgment in this matter!! :)
LOL. That's the kind of open-mindedness that risks one's brains falling out. But anyone who liked Obama's reign should love Joe's and Kamala's. :rolleyes:
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I cannot speak about the ones you've met, and I won't say the ones I've dialogued with are unsaved. But they are hellbent on pushing a social gospel rather than that of Jesus Christ. There are others I've met who are only superficially politically minded, thus easily swayed by the rhetoric of the Dem MSM and that of serious Progressive Leftists. They would certainly not care for your own radical capitalism nor your warmongering solutions.
My radical capitalism as you consider it is really only true conservatism. Where your comment on warmongering comes from only God knows. Perhaps you’d care to unpack that.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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The sad part is that the GOP had a fantastic opportunity, but blew it. Trump has ended his political career on a bad note. The best he can hope for is a short-lived movement like the Tea-Party, and even here he has lost influence with the conservative element of the GOP. Had he been able to control himself during the past four months there was a possibility to exploit fractures in the DNC. Instead he alienated his own supporters (the supporters that mattered) and the GOP leaders are going to have to try to repair the damage before the next Senate race.

Given that Biden will provide help where help is needed (unfortunately, at the expense of fraud, waste, and abuse) all he has to do is steer right of the extreme left and left of the middle within the DNC. Barring any national emergency the DNC should be in position to strengthen their hold in Congress and perhaps keep the White House for 12 years.

In three short months Trump has undone with his mouth what he accomplished by policy. And that is sad. What we liked about Trump is what ultimately damaged the nation. And with the DNC in charge they will continue to attack his character and link that to the GOP, so his accomplishments will fade into the background as GOP leaders will have to distance themselves from the Trump administration. Not only is Trump done, but so is Pence (which is also unfortunate).

Other consequences will probably be the replacement of Brian Kemp in 2023 with a Democrat Governor. It is now possible (again, because of Trump) that D.C. gain statehood which will have lasting implications in Congress as well. In short, the best President the GOP has seen in decades has probably become its downfall.
Nice write-up, but misses the mark in several places. Trump did very little, if anything, to damage the nation. The damage was already done through subversive deep state and overt attacks, constant negative coverage, COVID-19 measures, and the rigged election with accompanying failures of courts and legislatures. Trump was right to pursue the matter. The GOP didn't much care, and his only MSM voice, FOX, not at all.

In the end, Kemp did nothing to help Trump, so if he loses, he should blame himself. And though a very good right hand man, Pence was almost certainly never going to be the next GOP President. It was wrong to think Pence should make a unilateral decision on electoral votes, but Trump did not instigate any violence in that.

Any supposed fractures in or failures of the DNC are greatly minimized by the efforts of the Dem Media with cover-ups across the board, Social Media being the latest major player. The DNC blamed them in 2016. The GOP did nothing about the coming censorship. The Reps have only themselves to blame for the aftermath. If they don't decisively resolve the issue of election rigging, they likely have no future to speak of.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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My radical capitalism as you consider it is really only true conservatism. Where your comment on warmongering comes from only God knows. Perhaps you’d care to unpack that.
I didn't grade your radical capitalism (radical is one of your favorite terms), only stated what those people would think of it. Perhaps you would like to claim you were only being sarcastic in calling for war, stating war is good, etc.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I didn't grade your radical capitalism (radical is one of your favorite terms), only stated what those people would think of it. Perhaps you would like to claim you were only being sarcastic in calling for war, stating war is good, etc.
No, humans natural state is waristic, evidenced by everything in history. Have you studied history RT?

Given that, war criminals who use war situations to propitiate in humane and bloodthirsty crimes to people are to be captured, tried and punished. Even in war, there are rules of law (see the Geneva convention stipulations)
 
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RighteousnessTemperance&

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No, humans natural state is waristic, evidenced by everything in history. Have you studied history RT?
You are straying from my original post and thus lost its meaning. Go back and read what I wrote in response to your own experience with "liberal progressive" Christians, though the ones I've dialogued with would be better labeled Progressive Left Christians. The comments are in relation to their thinking not mine. I'm a Christian, but neither a Progressive Leftist nor a liberal progressive. If you want to argue this, you'll need to argue with them. Good luck with that.
 

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Nice write-up, but misses the mark in several places. Trump did very little, if anything, to damage the nation. The damage was already done through subversive deep state and overt attacks, constant negative coverage, COVID-19 measures, and the rigged election with accompanying failures of courts and legislatures. Trump was right to pursue the matter. The GOP didn't much care, and his only MSM voice, FOX, not at all.

In the end, Kemp did nothing to help Trump, so if he loses, he should blame himself. And though a very good right hand man, Pence was almost certainly never going to be the next GOP President. It was wrong to think Pence should make a unilateral decision on electoral votes, but Trump did not instigate any violence in that.

Any supposed fractures in or failures of the DNC are greatly minimized by the efforts of the Dem Media with cover-ups across the board, Social Media being the latest major player. The DNC blamed them in 2016. The GOP did nothing about the coming censorship. The Reps have only themselves to blame for the aftermath. If they don't decisively resolve the issue of election rigging, they likely have no future to speak of.
I disagree about Kemp. In Georgia Kemp did a lot to help Trump. He was an outspoken Trump supporter. But like Pence, he was unwilling to forfeit his integrity to obey Trump. And Kemp will pay the price.

I agree that Trump did little to harm the nation. We all knew he would fight to the end (this is one reason he was elected). But the little he did was enough to have huge consequences.

His blame is simply his mouth. It is amazing because his policies were outstanding. He did so much to benefit the nation. But he also had a problem controlling his tongue and in the end much of his accomplishments will be undone because of it.

He misled his supporters into thinking the election could be overturned. He exaggerated the provable fraud in the election. He acted as if Kemp could legally change the results of Georgia. He acted as if Pence could stop the counting of the certificates.

This went past the time for political posturing.
 
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