NBA champs

[KenH]

Originally posted by Timtoolman:
By the way you breezed right over the fact that boys only got 68 pts during a loss to the Mavericks.

You didn't hear me whining about that regular season game or blaming the referees for that inept offensive performance.

 

[PastorSBC1303]

It is rather amazing that two things continually happen here...

1. When the Pistons win, they are a great team full of great players that play great basketball.

2. When the Pistons lose, it is always the refs fault.


Well despite that I am expecting a great series. Both teams are good and both teams are capable of winning the title. I still say the Spurs in 6.

 

[Jimmy C]

Now come on, its not tims fault the zebras had the spurs in game one (they have house payments too you know). Detroit is a good team - just because the spurs won the first does not win them the title. I think the spurs will win tomorrow night - but I would not be alarmed if I were a pistons fan. The only time I would be alarmed as a pistons fan - is when they lose that first game at home, because then the tourney is over! I think it will go at least six and possibly seven. One thing I have learned watching sports is that you are never as good as you seem to be when you win big - nor as bad when you lose big.

GO SPURS! if the Mavs cant make it at least we can root for a texas team. - and I am very jealous that Tim has tickets for the game!

 

[4His_glory]

The fact is that refs in the NBA have been getting worse and worse, it is not just the Pistons games. I have seen more stupid calls this year the ever before.

Thats not wihining, thats fact. Refs have a lot of power to sway a game one way or the other and if they do not make good calls it ruins the game.

The thing that bugs me is how many players can get away with lowering their shoulder and not get called for an ofensive foul (Pistons are guilty of it too).

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by 4His_glory:
The fact is that refs in the NBA have been getting worse and worse

I have no disagreement with that statement. The same applies in college basketball. But it hurts both teams in a game, not just one.

 

[4His_glory]

Yup your right about college as well. I think they trian refs at the school for the blind and deaf.

 

[KenH]

Is the school run by Curly, Moe, and Larry?

 

[Timtoolman]

Originally posted by KenH:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 4His_glory:
The fact is that refs in the NBA have been getting worse and worse

I have no disagreement with that statement. The same applies in college basketball. But it hurts both teams in a game, not just one. </font>[/QUOTE]So you are agreeing that the refs are poor. Yet you seem to be also saying that they are poor YET good enough to be equally poor to both to teams?

OOOOOkaaayyy

 

[Timtoolman]

Pistons attacking the basket tonight. It seems they cannot get a call but evey touch tap is a foul for them. Just had an over the back and out on spurs, ref gives it too the spurs. What a joke.

I concede, the men in blue cannot beat the men in black and white!

 

[Jimmy C]

I dont know Tim

I havnt seen the game the same way - detroit is just missing and not playing very good d

BUT - I thought the Spurs would win both games at home - and they play very differently on the road. Detroit has every chance to come back and take a 3-2 lead IF they dont panic.

It is as I told you two weeks ago - San Antonio is a very deep and talented team, who also play a very eastern style of defense. Bowen is really giving Rip fits

 

[PastorSBC1303]

Here we go again, Spurs win so therefore the Refs stink again...

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by Jimmy C:
I thought the Spurs would win both games at home - and they play very differently on the road.

The Spurs were 6-2 at home and 6-2 on the road during these playoffs.

Sounds pretty consistent to me at home and away.

 

[KenH]

Well now, since the first 6 minutes of game 1 the Spurs have outscored the Pistons by 49 points over 7.5 quarters.

It is crystal clear that the Pistons have as much of a chance of beating the Spurs in San Antonio as a snowball has a chance of not melting in a hot oven. The Pistons just don't have enough offense to stay with the Spurs as scoring 69 points and 76 points just won't cut it against what we all now know is the best team in the NBA - THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS!! The Spurs are out-defensing the Pistons.

All the games in Detroit will determine is whether the Spurs win this series in 4, 5, or 6 games.

SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
ANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOONIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
BASSSSSSKETTTTTTTTTTTTTBALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!

 

[PastorSBC1303]

The great defensive team of the Pistons have had no answer for Manu.

 

[KenH]

It's Manu here! Manu there!! Manu everywhere!!!!

The Pistons simply have absolutely NO answer for Manu Ginobili. And are unable to address their problems with dealing with Duncan, Parker, Horry, et al, even Bruce Bowen who is the best defensive player in the league. Bowen should have won the award for the regular season best defensive player but it looks like he'll have a world championship ring for this season which is far, far better.

The Pistons players and fans surely now realize that their reign as world champions will end with this series as the Spurs take away their crown. The Pistons have been worthy champions. But they have come up against a team that is simply better than they
are.

The San Antonio Spurs - putting the D into D-E-F-E-N-S-E!!!!

The San Antonio Spurs - putting the T into T-E-A-M!!!!

 

[PastorSBC1303]

I just watched Stephen A. Smith on ESPN and he was going on and on about how soft the Pistons looked in the first 2 games.

 

[KenH]

It is very, very difficult to repeat. The crown always wear heavily on the brow of the reigning champ. Unless a team is clearly superior to the rest of the league, as the Bulls were for their twin three-peats or the Lakers for their recent three-peat, repeating is just a very hard thing to do.

 

[ccrobinson]

It's interesting you said that, Ken. Beginning in 1969, there were no repeat champions in the NBA for 18 years. Then, we had a long string of repeat champs.

1987-88:Lakers
1989-90istons
1991-93:Bulls
1994-95:Rockets
1996-98:Bulls

It wasn't until 2000 that we didn't see another repeat winner, and that year was the first of the Lakers three-peat.

Here's a stat that may interest only me, but I find it fascinating. Since 1980, only 7 different NBA franchises have won a championhip. 12 different franchises have won the Super Bowl, somewhere around 18 have won the World Series and about a dozen have the Stanley Cup. I just think it's an interesting thing that so few have won the NBA Finals.

Here we go again, Spurs win so therefore the Refs stink again...

Tim, sorry to say, but you are losing credibility by continuing to say that the refs are costing the Pistons this series. Refs don't make that kind of a difference in a 21 point blowout. I didn't watch every minute of both games, but what I did see was a Pistons team that had no answer to Manu Ginobili (sp?). If you can't stop a good player like Manu, he's just going to wreak havoc and open the game up more for Duncan, et al.

I have no doubt that Larry Brown will figure out something to try and contain Ginobili, but if they can't do that, the Pistons will get swept off their home court. With that said, I believe the Pistons will win at least 2 of the 3 games in Detroit.

 

[Timtoolman]

Tim, sorry to say, but you are losing credibility by continuing to say that the refs are costing the Pistons this series. Refs don't make that kind of a difference in a 21 point blowout. I didn't watch every minute of both games, but what I did see was a Pistons team that had no answer to Manu Ginobili (sp?). If you can't stop a good player like Manu, he's just going to wreak havoc and open the game up more for Duncan, et al.

I have no doubt that Larry Brown will figure out something to try and contain Ginobili, but if they can't do that, the Pistons will get swept off their home court. With that said, I believe the Pistons will win at least 2 of the 3 games in Detroit. [/QB]

Yeah I know, but pulling Ken's chain was all that I had left. Thats all that I was doing. The piston have fell apart. I am not sure if they will ever show up again. I think they have gotten steadly worst since the first game of the Heat. Watching the spurs play yeserday with the inside then outside passing of the ball is exactly what got the piston there. When was the last time you seen them move the ball like that(Last game of the IN series). I am not sure I will credit the defensce because I thinkt the pistons are getting some good open looks at the basket but are jus tnot makeing them. They have had the shot oppertunities to win either game. So I really don't think the refs are too blame. Most are saying the same here, poor refering but so many lost oppertunities to score. It rest with the pistons.

I can see the aggravation level of calls going one way but again the fell apart and failed to put the ball in the hoop.
It was good to see that they stop alot of the flopping calls in last nights game. Manu is getting to be a safety hazard lying all over the floor all the time. I did see Rip was trying to immatate him last night, had a few flops himself. However the refs did not call them. They had some extremely bad calls, which I wrote down in the first 6 mins of the game but the score was so bad I see it really made no deffernce. So I am not going to bring them up. This series so far has been so bad it isn't even fun. Maybe the Piston have gotton to full of themselves. ON the other hand they have yet to play one game like what got them to the finals. Maybe its the defense, maybe not.

I will admit that I think Tim Duncan is not only a good player but the gentleman of the court. Spent little time complaining and helped the Pistons players whent they went to the floor. He is a class act.

Enough crow for now. Got work to do.

 

[Timtoolman]

Just got home from work and the talk is that pistons are 1-7 with two certian refs working and 11-1 when they are not. Let me add that Detroit is not making that the reason they lost. Talk around here among sports announcers and the people I work with is that the piston had plenty of oppertunity to score but just missed their shots. I think that is right. They have not played the way that got them there since the Heat.
I am not sure I even want to go tonight. But I will cause I love BB.