New Doctor Who

[Matt Black]

Heh heh!

I've run the Inferno continuity problem past some fellow-geeks on another board and a theory advanced by one of them was that in Inferno they weren't actually drilling to the core but for Stahlmann's Gas, which was in pockets between the core and the mantle. Therefore the boreholes were to different levels and it was the release of the gas which destabilised the Earth; Torchwood's borehole which was exploited by the Racnos missed the gas pockets.

 

[ccrobinson]

I don't know. The theory does fit, but I'm not that crazy about it. Perhaps there will be an explanation offered at a later story that explains it better. I've heard that the writers for the new series try very hard to avoid discontinuity, so maybe this isn't a case where they all forgot about "Inferno".

BTW, Can you send me the link to the other board? It's not like I need another board to belong to, and I may not visit it very much, but it is Doctor Who. :thumbsup:

 

[Pete]

hmmmm...RTD could always deal with any continuity problems by just throwing in a George Lucas cop-out... "From a certain point of view..."


Was just thinking the other day that one part of Who canon could be in trouble soon if DT does leave as rumours suggest...The Doctor is approaching the 12th regeneration. Unless another effect of the Time War gives him a few spares

 

[ccrobinson]

It might seem strange for me, Mr. Contintuity :smilewinkgrin: , to say this, but, as long as it's done properly, I don't see why there couldn't be more regenerations after the 12th one. I think we have a few years before having to consider it, but, if done right, I don't have a big problem here.

 

[Pete]

More Who from youtube (I have no life...):

Beatles medley
Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper (soppy, but enough puns to make it interesting)
Masters Of The Universe (from Top Gear)


Been watching the C.E. series again, and sorry to the great Sarah-Jane but I've promoted Rose to #1 on my fav companion list.

 

[ccrobinson]

The Top Gear Dweebs couldn't use Google to find out that the Klingon homeworld is Q'onoS, not Klingzaa? Ai-yi-yi. :tonofbricks:


The Beatles one was Ok, but the Time after Time video made me sad that we won't be seeing Rose anymore. :tear:

No life to be found here in the States either, Pete. :wavey:

 

[Pete]

Jon Pertwee interview

 

[ccrobinson]

I love where he says, "I'd like to stay if you'll pay me a little bit more money. Not a lot, just a little." The BBC replies, "We're sorry to see you go."

:laugh:

Thanks for posting the link, Pete.

 

[ccrobinson]

Once the Pertwee interview ended, Youtube came up with this one, a nice interview with Peter Davison.

 

[ccrobinson]

Then there's the Colin Baker interview here. And the Sylvester McCoy interview here.

I've come to think that Colin Baker got a bad deal on his time as the Doctor. Colin had the worst writing of the entire 40 years behind him and tried as hard as he could to make pudding out of, well, you know.

I haven't seen all of the McCoy stories, but of what I've seen, there are some disturbing things to be found. This is not a terrible thing because it makes sense after his trial. I always thought the Doctor was very angry at the Time Lords after his trial, and he sort of took it out on his enemis like the Cybermen and the Daleks in Silver Nemesis and Remembrance of the Daleks, respectively. Battlefield is a good story as well, which is the story that has secured Ace's spot in my list of Top 5 Companions.

 

[Pete]

Was just writing a little rant here at 3:30ish am on those 3 Doctors B.C.E. (Not Before Common Era, Before Chris Eccleston! )....

In the middle of writing it I heard a woman calling for help outside...A bloke was bashing her on our front step. He ran off up the street as I got to the door. We brought her inside and my parents got up and looked after her while I rang the police. Boys in blue have been and took the lady with them.

So now I think I'll pass on aforementioned rant on merits (or lack thereof) of those 3 Doctors (for now at least) and throw in something that isn't needed because we all know it anyway, but hey it'll help me unwind a bit

What was it Rose said to Jackie and "Ricky The Idiot" in The Parting Of The Ways after The Doctor sent her back home safe from the Daleks? The Doctor showed her a better way to live. To live making a difference. Through Christ is the best..no..the ONLY way to live and make a difference. While we were waiting for the police tonight, mum was talking to the shaken woman telling her we are a Christian family and she is safe here. Did the message sink in? I don't know, I pray so.

I guess what I'm rambling about here is that sure having a TARDIS would probably be cool, but with or without one there are still over 31 million seconds worth of "here and now" in a year to live a better life and make a difference in.

God bless the Whovian Baptists and anyone else surfing through

 

[Pete]

Thankfully things have been considerably more boring here at home since my last post.


Just found this one:

From wiki

...According to the show's producer (Russell T. Davies) when this time comes the Face will pass on the four words that make up the secret to the Doctor (Widely believed to be "Eccleston was much better"), and that it will be "fantastic"...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

(And I didn't edit that in either )

 

[ccrobinson]

:laugh:

Pete, did you follow the link to the "Lonely God" prophecy? I think the message that's found there is indeed what the Face of Boe will say to him. I'm also patting myself on the back about the phrase because I guessed it correctly. :thumbs:

 

[Matt Black]

The Keeper of Traken, Logopolis and Castrovalva T Baker-Davison hand-over trilogy have just been issued over here as a box set. Having now re-watched them, I now remember how bad the John Nathan-Turner era was...

 

[ccrobinson]

JNT was a bad time for Doctor Who. This thought just popped into my head. Did Tom Baker leave Doctor Who because of JNT?

I didn't mind the change in the opening/closing sequence too much, but I did mind some of the stories. Take Meglos for instance. The Cactus who would be God. Stupid story.

I also didn't like the way that JNT gave the Doctor and Companions a "uniform". A Doctor who dressed like Tom Baker did pre-JNT was believeable. A Doctor who dressed like Peter Davison was less believeable and that hideous getup that Colin Baker wore was just horrendous. Turning to the Companions, they never changed clothes and when they finally did, they were some of the worst things ever. For example, Tegan had such a short skirt on in Resurrection of the Daleks that it's a good thing she never bent over or we would have been flashed. A few stories earlier, Nyssa took off her dress and finished Terminus wearing only a slip. Are you kidding me? Ridiculous!

JNT also never got the Master right. I've only seen a couple of Delgado stories, but I don't remember him playing the Master so over-the-top as Anthony Ainley was obviously told to do. True evil isn't a buffoon-like character as played by Ainley, but smooth, suave and debonair, as played by Delgado.

The JNT era was definitely the worst era for the Doctor.

 

[Matt Black]

Agreed with both your points: Ainley's Master laughed far too much and I'm one of those who blame JNT at least in part for the demise of the 'classic' series in 1989.

 

[Pete]

Sadly the Widely believed to be "Eccleston was much better" section of that wiki article has "met with an accident" Oh well, didn't think it would last long (and no, as I mentioned I wasn't the one who put it there )

cc, yep, saw that, but RTD might be just setting us all up for something clever.

Oh, and while I'm here when did the Doctor adjust the sonic screwdriver so it would work on normal mechanical locks? When watching it the other week I had flashbacks of either Pertwee or T. Baker saying it wouldn't open them? (I missed most of Davison, C. Baker and McCoy. Couldn't deal with them).

 

[ccrobinson]

I want to say that 4 said something like that, but I don't remember when he said it.

I believe that 5 was the one who modified the sonic screwdriver to manipulate mechanical locks. In "Snakedance", one of the few 5 stories worth watching btw, mostly because the overacting Janet Fielding is overshadowed by the characters of Lon and his mother, 5 gets locked up in a primitive padlocked cell. Nyssa got thrown in with him after she got busted trying to get the key and she laments that they don't have the sonic screwdriver, which implies that it was capable of opening mechanical locks. The sonic screwdriver was originally destroyed by the Terileptils in "The Visitation".

As far as Davison goes, the best stories for 5 were "Castrovalva", "Earthshock", and his last one "The Caves of Androzani". In the interview with Davison I linked to a couple of weeks ago, somebody was sort of bemoaning the irony that the best Davison story was his last one. True that.

Unless you like watching train wrecks, and I admit that there is a morbid fascination with watching JNT at his absolute worst, skip the Colin Baker era. I've read some favorable reviews of stories like "Revelation of the Daleks", and I detested that story. I did read the book of "The Two Doctors", and I liked the book, but watching it? Not so much.

There are some decent 7 stories, such as Silver Nemesis, Remembrance of the Daleks and Battlefield, which I've discussed in this thread before.

Although 7 did build a sonic screwdriver, I think that 9 absconded with the current one right before he blew up the weapons plant on Villengard.

 

[ccrobinson]

It's time to bump the Doctor Who thread. Not as if I would do this anyway, but there are no spoilers here. Well, Ok, there's a bit of a spoiler about Martha Jones, but it won't mess up the story for you whenever you get to see it.

GallifreyOne refers to the new season of Doctor Who as Series 3, so I will too, but one could make an argument that the season that kicked off last Saturday is Season 30. Regardless, the new season of Doctor Who kicked off with an episode titled Smith and Jones. No need to go into how I've seen it, but I have and wonder who's seen it besides me?

My initial impression is that I liked it. I liked Freema Agyeman, a very beautiful woman btw, as Martha Jones, the brilliant put-upon oldest child of her family. She's the one her siblings turn to when they're afraid to tell their parents what they really think. She's the one her parents turn to when one of them is so angry they won't talk to the other and the other knows they're in the wrong, but won't swallow their pride. I imagine that the 4 phone calls she receives at the beginning of the show are a daily occurence for her.

She also impresses the Doctor enough that he asks her to take a trip with him. Channeling Chris Farley: You remember, uh, that time in The Long Game when, uh, 9 says to Cathica, "Now, Rose... look at Rose. Rose is asking the right kind of questions."? That was awesome.

Well, that's what Martha Jones does. She asks all the right questions and makes the correct deductions. And it wouldn't be Doctor Who if they didn't spend some time running about.

Good story and my years of television viewing didn't help me figure out the ending, which is a good thing, because it means the writers didn't take a cheap way out.

One of the more interesting lines of the episode was this exchange.

Martha: "Do you have a brother?"
The Doctor: "No, not anymore. Just me."

BTW, there's no spoiler there either, because you'll never guess the context and it has little to do with the story.

Smith and Jones is a good start to series 3.

 

[Pete]

No need to go into how I've seen it, but I have and wonder who's seen it besides me?

I have a......errr......"sneak preview" version of it as well...... Will watch it some time over this weekend.