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Nike Just Undid It

Benjamin

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Your President says ...
Save your foolish politics. I've made it clear the issue is about honoring our flag! Your lame arguments fall back on that 2 wrongs would make this pathetic disrespect a right. Pure juvenile reasoning that I have no more respect for than those who try to justify the disgraceful actions of dishonoring our flag for political purposes.
 

Use of Time

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Save your foolish politics. I've made it clear the issue is about honoring our flag! Your lame arguments fall back on that 2 wrongs would make this pathetic disrespect a right. Pure juvenile reasoning that I have no more respect for than those who try to justify the disgraceful actions of dishonoring our flag for political purposes.

Knew it before I even read it. So now the issue is just the flag and not the troops all of a sudden. Moving the goal posts I see. Hey, whatever you have to do to ignore my comment. Wouldn’t want you being accused of ignoring the shaming of POW’s to protect your own politics. Okay fine, but your picture seems to imply otherwise. You are going to have to figure out what your own argument is if we are going to do this.
 

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Nike stock probably will be hurt in the short term--I see it's down about 2.5% today (so far)--and then it will blow over in a week and resume it's upward trend. It is up 23% in the last 6 months; 54% in the past 12 months. In three months I'd say the stock price will be higher than it is now.

Maybe.

The NFL also thought they were immune to the anger of Americans.
 

Benjamin

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Knew it before I even read it. So now the issue is just the flag and not the troops all of a sudden. Moving the goal posts I see. Hey, whatever you have to do to ignore my comment. Wouldn’t want you being accused of ignoring the shaming of POW’s to protect your own politics. Okay fine, but your picture seems to imply otherwise. You are going to have to figure out what your own argument is if we are going to do this.
If you could get by your support of political propaganda long enough you might have the sense to realize the reason for respecting our flag, without the juvenile games, is THAT FLAG has been upheld with great sacrifice and to kneel for political reasons, or to try to justify this disgraceful action for political reasons is where you display that your values are seriously messed up.
 

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If you could get by your support of political propaganda long enough you might have the sense to realize the reason for respecting our flag, without the juvenile games, is THAT FLAG has been upheld with great sacrifice and to kneel for political reasons, or to try to justify this disgraceful action for political reasons is where you display that your values are seriously messed up.

The flag was held up by POW’s too. I’ve served. I’ve lived it. I’m good with my patriotism. You don’t even have the courage to address the President’s remarks slurring POW’s on a message board. I’m sure you don’t have any political motivation for letting that slide. No sirree. I’m going to bed soon so please, throw me a real curve ball and address the POW remark. I dare you.
 

Benjamin

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The flag was held up by POW’s too. I’ve served. I’ve lived it. I’m good with my patriotism. You don’t even have the courage to address the President’s remarks slurring POW’s on a message board. I’m sure you don’t have any political motivation for letting that slide. No sirree. I’m goimg to bed soon so please, throw me a real curve ball and address the POW remark. I dare you.
No, I'm just not ignorant enough to fall into letting you divert to a fallacy of trying to justify your position because of something you don't like about our current President as if that in some magical way validates your argument. :rolleyes:

Actually quite revealing that you would expect me to chase after your ignorant fallacy..
 

Use of Time

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No, I'm just not ignorant enough to fall into letting you divert to a fallacy of trying to justify your position because of something you don't like about our current President as if that in some magical way validates your argument. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I didn’t think so. All I needed to know. It wasn’t a fallacy. It happened. I take it very seriously. “Something I don’t like about our current President.” Man you can’t even bring yourself to say it can you? You are right, I didn’t like it. Who in their right mind would? You have shown me that you are willing to things like that slide to support your politics.
 

Benjamin

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Yeah, I didn’t think so. All I needed to know. It wasn’t a fallacy. It happened. I take it very seriously. “Something I don’t like about our current President.” Man you can’t even bring yourself to say it can you? You are right, I didn’t like it. Who in their right mind would? You have shown me that you are willing to things like that slide to support your politics.
One more time, read slowly now, whatever you don't like about our President does not justify disrespecting our flag...or supporting those who do. Got it? Your fallacious argument will never fly with me and/or validate your conclusion/support of this action. Maybe it past your bedtime and you should get sleep on it. ;)
 

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One more time, read slowly now, whatever you don't like about our President does not justify disrespecting our flag...or supporting those who do. Got it? Your fallacious argument will never fly with me and/or validate your conclusion/support of this action. Maybe it past your bedtime and you should get sleep on it. ;)

I never once said that anything I do or do not like about our Pressident has anything to do with the flag situation. Not even once. What I do find amusing is that a guy that ignores a major disrespect to to our troops because of his own politics wants to lecture me (someone who actually did serve) on patriotism and accuse me of me playing politics. It’s so blatently hypocritical it’s beyond words and apparently your understanding.

But yeah, I do need sleep. Those of us that are doers and not just talkers require that. I still serve and have a busy day tomorrow.
 

Benjamin

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I never once said that anything I do or do not like about our Pressident has anything to do with the flag situation. Not even once. What I do find amusing is that a guy that ignores a major disrespect to to our troops because of his own politics wants to lecture me (someone who actually did serve) on patriotism and accuse me of me playing politics. It’s so blatently hypocritical it’s beyond words and apparently your understanding.

But yeah, I do need sleep. Those of us that are doers and not just talkers require that. I still serve and have a busy day tomorrow.
LOL, you say you don't make that argument and then go right back into an issue ("a guy",Trump) that has no bearing on justifying disrespecting our flag. You blatantly expect me to chase after your fallacy that you don't seem to recognize does not and can not validate your argument to support disrespecting our flag. Get some rest dude.
 

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LOL, you say you don't make that argument and then go right back into an issue ("a guy",Trump) that has no bearing on justifying disrespecting our flag. You blatantly expect me to chase after your fallacy that you don't seem to recognize does not and can not validate your argument to support disrespecting our flag. Get some rest dude.

Just pointing out easy to see hypocrisy. Reading comprehension is hard for you isn’t it? I’ve made my feelings on Kaepernick and Nike available for all to see in this thread and they aren’t positive. You were too busy standing their with your fingers in your ears to notice. I’ve addressed my thoughts on the issue in here. You’ve done nothing but duck and dodge to hide your own dear leaders disrespect to those that have also sacrificed for the flag. Again doers vs talkers. It’s easy to see which one you are. Good night hero. Recruiters offices should be open tomorrow. Go get some!
 

Benjamin

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You’ve done nothing but duck and dodge to hide your own dear leaders disrespect to those that have also sacrificed for the flag.

Okay, two more times then, :) seems you still need it explained, NEVER was the subject about what Trump said about "a" POW (your buddy McCain), NEVER, that is your fallacy which you ignorantly believe to be some kind of valid argument to defend your support for those who disrespect our flag to which you practically are begging me to chase after. Apparently, that's all you got to justify your argument...but NEWS FLASH, it doesn't.
 
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Use of Time

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Okay, two more times then, :) seems you still need it explained, NEVER was the subject about what Trump said about POWs, NEVER, that is your fallacy which you ignorantly believe to be some kind of valid argument to defend your support for those who disrespect our flag to which you practically are begging me to chase after. Apparently, that's all you got to justify your argument...but NEWS FLASH, it doesn't.

Only because you can’t face it because it would crumble your phony patriotism. That’s a you problem. It’s all I need to know about your sense of patriotism. It’s so fake.
 

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Only because you can’t face it because it would crumble your phony patriotism. That’s a you problem. It’s all I need to know about your sense of patriotism. It’s so fake.
Sorry, but you can not justify disrespecting our flag with a 2 wrongs makes a right argument WHICH is all this obsession of yours for me to chase after your fallacy amounts to. Your whole argument crumbles because you don't have the sense to realize that my not getting lead into the Trump/McCain issue has ABSOLUTELY no bearing on not respecting our flag or supporting those who don't.

When I stand at the National Anthem, or others don't, the Trump/McCain issue wouldn't even cross my mind. It is a non-issue concerning my value to stand up for the flag. You try to make it an issue, for the 3rd time, it is not. Furthermore, 2 wrongs NEVER make a right. Fail x 2 for you, my friend.
 
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Benjamin

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Dear Nike, what a football player believing in sacrificing everything toward the flag really looks like:

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Use of Time

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Sorry, but you can not justify disrespecting our flag with a 2 wrongs makes a right argument WHICH is all this obsession of yours for me to chase after your fallacy amounts to. Your whole argument crumbles because you don't have the sense to realize that my not getting lead into the Trump/McCain issue has ABSOLUTELY no bearing on not respecting our flag or supporting those who don't.

When I stand at the National Anthem, or others don't, the Trump/McCain issue wouldn't even cross my mind. It is a non-issue concerning my value to stand up for the flag. You try to make it an issue, for the 3rd time, it is not. Furthermore, 2 wrongs NEVER make a right. Fail x 2 for you, my friend.

Again I have never said one time that two wrongs (I don’t even know what you are talking about here) make a right? Please copy and paste my statement that said as such. You will not find it. That is a fallacy that you have created in your own head.

All you are doing is copying and pasting at this point. The protest has nothing to do with the troops but like I said people like to hide behind veterans in one breath and turn their back on them in another. That is the point I have CLEARLY stated over and over in here. It would be nice for you to be even somewhat honest.

You don’t even have to acknowledge the Trump comment about POW’s with respect to the flag issue at all. It would just be nice to see at least some sort of acknowledgment that it wasn’t okay. You can’t even bring yourself to do that for them because of your own partisan pride.

It’s just very sad. I despise seeing veterans used as a trump card for a political argument. It’s gross.
 
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