No limited-atonement here:

[Yeshua1]

Saved? From what? The curse of the law - i.e., 2nd death.

Yes, our condemnation "in Adam" has been reversed.

"So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men."

God does not hold us accountable for being born into a fallen, sinful race because of the cross of Christ. Therefore all who die in ignorance will be raised in the resurrection of the just. This includes those who have died before the age of accountability.

To understand this one must know the difference between Christ's justification of us in Himself and justification by faith.

ONLY applies to the elect in Christ!

 

[MennoSota]

Who is Paul writing to? The Roman believers. When were they "reconciled to God"? When they were unconverted and hated God. They were reconciled when Christ died.

The Bible says they were chosen from before the foundation of the world. (The Roman believers.)

The unconverted, fallen human race was reconciled to God "in Christ". That's the gospel.

It's not the gospel, but you keep saying it is. Does repeating a false statement eventually make it true?

Limited atonement is a lie from the father of lies.

You seem to be calling Yahweh a father of lies. Why would you do that?
You are caught in a conundrum. If the atonement is universally unlimited then everyone is saved. If not everyone is saved then the atonement is limited.
Have you heard the expression "You can't have your cake and eat it to."?

 

[MennoSota]

Ignoring the above doesn't speak well for you die-hard Calvinists. In fact your silence speaks volumes! Your silence proves that your position is wrong...very wrong.

Ironically, it strengthens our point and weakens yours, but you just can't see it.
Carry on...

 

[MennoSota]

you are a spook?!? Or a drug.......

...narc...

 

[Yeshua1]

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him

So the world does not mean all sinners?

No, different contex!

The Bible says they were chosen from before the foundation of the world. (The Roman believers.)

It's not the gospel, but you keep saying it is. Does repeating a false statement eventually make it true?

You seem to be calling Yahweh a father of lies. Why would you do that?
You are caught in a conundrum. If the atonement is universally unlimited then everyone is saved. If not everyone is saved then the atonement is limited.
Have you heard the expression "You can't have your cake and eat it to."?

He really needs to quit channeling barth here, and start to understand what Paul meant!

 

[MennoSota]

Guess all of us were saved, and only those who reject that get lost again?

Care to buy an ice pick?

 

[Yeshua1]

Ironically, it strengthens our point and weakens yours, but you just can't see it.
Carry on...

He stated would rather be a Catholic than one of us, so? Shows where his knowledge of the scripture is stuck at!

 

[AndThisGospel]

ONLY applies to the elect in Christ!

That's a lie....

 

[AndThisGospel]

No, different context!

Explain...

 

[AndThisGospel]

Ironically, it strengthens our point and weakens yours, but you just can't see it.
Carry on...

No, silence means that you have no answers and that you would rather remain quiet then to put your foot in your mouth. You do it our of pride and self-preservation.

 

[AndThisGospel]

Care to buy an ice pick?

No, not an ice pick, but "the deceitfulness of sin"...

 

[TCassidy]

Limited atonement is a lie from the father of lies.

Then why do you believe it?

 

[AndThisGospel]

The Bible says they were chosen from before the foundation of the world. (The Roman believers.)

Where? In Christ

God so loved the world (the fallen human race) that He reinstated them "in Christ", but not all will receive this truth. Those who reject it will remain under the curse....

If the atonement is universally unlimited then everyone is saved.

Yes, everyone has been saved from the curse of the law. Those who reject what Christ has already accomplished reject life. They will be judged by the law....

 

[AndThisGospel]

Then why do you believe it?

IS this the best you have to offer - wise-cracks?

 

[Yeshua1]

Where? In Christ

God so loved the world (the fallen human race) that He reinstated them "in Christ", but not all will receive this truth. Those who reject it will remain under the curse....



Yes, everyone has been saved from the curse of the law. Those who reject what Christ has already accomplished reject life. They will be judged by the law....

The TRUE Gospel is that Death of Jesus provided for the reconciling back to God the elect in Christ, not for all of Mankind!

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

No, my point is that is how those here advocate losing salvation have it!

No, It really points to a Catholic theology......loose salvation so go to confession---do it by the numbers....what they have in a nutshell is "Easy Believism". Trump will fix that though....LOL!

 

[AndThisGospel]

The TRUE Gospel is that Death of Jesus provided for the reconciling back to God the elect in Christ, not for all of Mankind!

Provisional atonement is an Arminianistic concept, not Calvinistic....You must be hybrid of both?

 

[AndThisGospel]

No, It really points to a Catholic theology......lose salvation so go to confession--...

Do you confess when you sin?

 

[MennoSota]

No, silence means that you have no answers and that you would rather remain quiet then to put your foot in your mouth. You do it our of pride and self-preservation.

Yawn. Keep telling yourself that if it feeds your ego.

 

[AndThisGospel]

Here's the thing...you believe that God's Spirit is irresistible and that ultimately God's will is going to be accomplished in you no matter what. IF that's the case then why do you still sin? Clearly God's will is for us not to sin, yet all of us sin. Why????..

Yes?