preacher4truth
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Really?
This is the war cry of some who misunderstand, dislike, or have an incorrect assumption about the doctrine of election.
Not long ago a preacher told some under him to not even study this doctrine and to stay away from it. He also told others to never study predestination. His reasoning was 'We are not supposed to know these things, they are too high for us (taking a passage as proof-text to support it) so stay away from these things!.
The above statement was made with quite an indignant spirit. The fellow being addressed looked over at me and put his the palms of his hands up and shrugged and reiterated 'I guess we are not to study or know about this'. This was something he told me he really wanted to understand.
Several on this board also hold to a similar thinking along these lines. A straw man was given within another thread that the Reformed 'Can never know if they are elect!' One combatant handed out a rebuke similar to this 'What, is your name written in Psalms?' (like some secret code by implication) due to the fact I disagreed with his position. Again the rebuke was that Calvinists cannot know they are elect.
I will add this as a well known rebuttal (at least it should be in your arsenal) to not studying certain theological issues within Scripture:
'All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.' 2 Timothy 3:16
The above passage clearly tells us all Scripture is profitable, and in what usages it is profitable.
What do you say, can a person know if he or she is elect?
By the way, I see election and salvation as one in the same and I don't share a fear of this doctrine nor do I differentiate it as some other class of persons Scripturally.
- Blessings
This is the war cry of some who misunderstand, dislike, or have an incorrect assumption about the doctrine of election.
Not long ago a preacher told some under him to not even study this doctrine and to stay away from it. He also told others to never study predestination. His reasoning was 'We are not supposed to know these things, they are too high for us (taking a passage as proof-text to support it) so stay away from these things!.
The above statement was made with quite an indignant spirit. The fellow being addressed looked over at me and put his the palms of his hands up and shrugged and reiterated 'I guess we are not to study or know about this'. This was something he told me he really wanted to understand.
Several on this board also hold to a similar thinking along these lines. A straw man was given within another thread that the Reformed 'Can never know if they are elect!' One combatant handed out a rebuke similar to this 'What, is your name written in Psalms?' (like some secret code by implication) due to the fact I disagreed with his position. Again the rebuke was that Calvinists cannot know they are elect.
I will add this as a well known rebuttal (at least it should be in your arsenal) to not studying certain theological issues within Scripture:
'All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.' 2 Timothy 3:16
The above passage clearly tells us all Scripture is profitable, and in what usages it is profitable.
What do you say, can a person know if he or she is elect?
By the way, I see election and salvation as one in the same and I don't share a fear of this doctrine nor do I differentiate it as some other class of persons Scripturally.
- Blessings
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