No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 2

[Brightfame52]

That passage is not speaking of the Gospel, but rather it's speaking of the deeper truths of Scripture. You're going beyond the text with your interpretation.

Yes the Gospel is definitely meant. The Gospel in 1 Cor 2 is the deep things of God, His purposes and counsels are Gospel Truths and hidden from the natural man.

Jesus told Peter that it was of special revelation from the Father that he could even acknowledge Him as the Christ the Son of God, it wasn't natural Matt 16:17

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Now John Gill on 1 Cor 2 10

for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God; which does not suppose any ignorance of these things in the Spirit, antecedent to his searching of them; but his complete and perfect knowledge of them; even as God's searching of the hearts of men expresses his omniscience, and through knowledge of all that is in them: the "all things" the Spirit searches into, and has a perfect knowledge of, do not design in the utmost extent everything which comes within the compass of his infinite understanding; but every thing that is in, or belongs to the Gospel of Christ, even the more mysterious and sublime, as well as the more plain and easy doctrines: for the "deep things of God" intend not the perfections of his nature, which are past finding out unto perfection by men; nor the depths of his wise and righteous providence; but the mysterious doctrines of the Gospel, the fellowship of the mystery which was hid in God, his wise counsels of old concerning man's salvation, the scheme of things drawn in his eternal mind, and revealed in the word.https://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_corinthians/2-10.htm

 

[Silverhair]

@Silverhair



No I didnt, this is something found in the reading. Man cant comprehend the Light, it agrees with Paul as well 1 Cor 2:14

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

But the natural, nonspiritual man does not accept or welcome or admit into his heart the gifts and teachings and revelations of the Spirit of God, for they are folly (meaningless nonsense) to him; and he is incapable of knowing them [of progressively recognizing, understanding, and becoming better acquainted with them] because they are spiritually discerned and estimated and appreciated.ampc

You continue to ignore the context BF and as a result you continue to make grievous errors.

What does this verse say BF?

Joh 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
Joh 1:13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

When do they receive Him BF?

Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,

Why is believing the gospel so important BF?

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

So we know that we are saved by God when we believe in His risen son. We cannot earn it and we do not deserve it so we have no reason to boast.

Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
Eph 2:9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

 

[Silverhair]

The all is limited obviously to the all who become believers. The Sheep. Are all men without exception His Sheep ? No off course not. Jesus told us plainly who He died for in Jn 10:11,15 so the all pertains to His Sheep So everytime you say Im teaching universalism its your dishonesty and deceit.

You have to read your religion into the text for you to come to that conclusion BF.

God desires that ALL come to repentance and Christ said He would draw ALL to Himself. Where you error is when you make the drawing irresistible.

So are you saying that both God the Father and Christ were wrong?

Your religious view makes God a liar BF.

You have to deny many clear bible verses BF in order to hold to your particular view.

Joh 3:17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

Heb 2:9 But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone.

1Jn 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

1Ti 2:6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time.

Rom 5:6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.

I could go on BF but I am sure you get what the bible is saying. The ALL is not limited as you would like it to be but is for ALL of humanity.

 

[Brightfame52]

@Silverhair

You continue to ignore the context BF and as a result you continue to make grievous errors.

Its in the context so you are avoiding what's in the scripture, no way around it

 

[Brightfame52]

You have to read your religion into the text for you to come to that conclusion BF.

God desires that ALL come to repentance and Christ said He would draw ALL to Himself. Where you error is when you make the drawing irresistible.

So are you saying that both God the Father and Christ were wrong?

Your religious view makes God a liar BF.

You have to deny many clear bible verses BF in order to hold to your particular view.

Joh 3:17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

Heb 2:9 But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone.

1Jn 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

1Ti 2:6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time.

Rom 5:6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.

I could go on BF but I am sure you get what the bible is saying. The ALL is not limited as you would like it to be but is for ALL of humanity.

Drawing is salvation begun. Once God starts the drawing, one is a new creature.

 

[Van]

Yes, God makes plans, and no plan of God can be thwarted. God planned before creation that His Lamb of God would sacrifice His life to provide the means of reconciliation for fallen humanity. This plan was known before Adam had sinned in the garden!

God's redemption plan established before creation had these features:
God chooses individuals whose faith He has credited as righteousness.
God transfers spiritually those individuals whose faith He credited as righteousness into Christ.
God causes those transferred into Christ to undergo the washing regeneration, making them alive, rather than spiritually dead.
After those individuals are born anew, as new creations, created for good works, they are to go forth and produce fruit.
As a born anew Christians, they have been spiritually transferred into Christ, made alive (regenerated) and sealed in Christ.

Note only Christ abides in those sealed in Christ , and indwelt with the Spirit of Christ, can produce good fruit.

Therefore, I believe the correct doctrine is "Unless God reveals His gospel to us, and we hear and understand it, no person can put their faith in Christ. I believe the doctrine that we must be supernaturally "enabled" to believe by the Spirit is false doctrine.

 

[Brightfame52]

@Van

God chooses individuals whose faith He has credited as righteousness.

Thats conditional election, its unbiblical. Gods choice of an individual according to the purpose of election is b4 they are born and having done any good or evil Rom 9:11

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)

 

[Van]

@Van

Thats conditional election, its unbiblical. Gods choice of an individual according to the purpose of election is b4 they are born and having done any good or evil Rom 9:11

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)

Everyone knows the election of Romans 9:11 was not for salvation. And it IS conditional, God chose the older to serve the younger!

 

[Brightfame52]

Everyone knows the election of Romans 9:11 was not for salvation. And it IS conditional, God chose the older to serve the younger!

Sure it was for salvation ain't no doubt about it