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Open View of Salvation vs. Predetermination

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Baptist_Pastor/Theologian, Aug 6, 2006.

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  1. Brother Bob

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    Jesus did not kill anyone. There are three and these three are one but God did not hang on the cross and die, only His son did.
     
    #141 Brother Bob, Aug 8, 2006
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    So Jesus is not God? Do you read much Spong?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #142 Joseph_Botwinick, Aug 8, 2006
  3. Brother Bob

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    Who did Jesus Kill while He was in the flesh. Name me one.
    This is a foolish argument from a very young man who needs to grow up.
    Did the Holy Ghost Kill also?
     
    #143 Brother Bob, Aug 8, 2006
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    Read the book of Rev...The one on the horse. Killing 100,000s. Who do you think that is?


    besides. Joe asked of God killed anyone? And then asked of Jesus is the same nature ...the very being of God
     
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  5. Joseph_Botwinick

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    HMMMMMMM....Did I ever say Jesus killed anyone in the flesh? Why does this bother you so much? Of course the Holy Spirit killed in his righteous judgment as God.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #145 Joseph_Botwinick, Aug 8, 2006
  6. Brother Bob

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    We haven't got there yet and Hello James good of you to drop in.

    Now, to both of you. If Jesus killed anyone he would not have been able to offer a perfect sacrifice would He or are you saying He could kill and still offer the perferct sacrifice for our sins. waiting for you answer. It will be interesting.
     
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    And now a different tune folks.
     
    #147 Brother Bob, Aug 8, 2006
  8. Jarthur001

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    no...if he murdered any one...he would not have been the perfect sacrifice.

    But as Judge has God ever killed any one? Will Jesus ever kill anyone?
     
    #148 Jarthur001, Aug 8, 2006
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    Please explain to me why he couldn't offer a perfect sacrifice if he, in his sovereign, holy, and righteous judgment killed someone. Of course he could. God is holy and just in all his judgments and we have no right to question his holiness, because we don't even come close.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #149 Joseph_Botwinick, Aug 8, 2006
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    Don't want to go there. If you do go to it but you have changed the subject.
    The subject was did Jesus Kill anyone and never did I think anyone on here would say He did and for sure I know you get radical but to jump on that wagon is beyond me James. I lost some respect for you just now.
     
    #150 Brother Bob, Aug 8, 2006
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    no change..I just came in and seen it right off. This is what joe always said...

    then asked..is jesus God. I'll stay out of it... :)
     
    #151 Jarthur001, Aug 8, 2006
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    You don't mind if I quote you do you Joseph and James. Especially you Joe.:tear: :tear:
     
    #152 Brother Bob, Aug 8, 2006
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    Please explain to me why he couldn't offer a perfect sacrifice if he, in his sovereign, holy, and righteous judgment killed someone. Of course he could. God is holy and just in all his judgments and we have no right to question his holiness, because we don't even come close.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #153 Joseph_Botwinick, Aug 8, 2006
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    No problem. I am not ashamed of the truth.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #154 Joseph_Botwinick, Aug 8, 2006
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    Good idea, since everyone on BB knows what you think about every aspect of Scripture. There are times when others like to debate.
     
    #155 saturneptune, Aug 8, 2006
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    My wife is a retired school teacher of over 30 years. Are you a Theologian Joseph?
     
    #156 Brother Bob, Aug 8, 2006
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    Brother Bob,

    Would you like to answer the request?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #157 Joseph_Botwinick, Aug 8, 2006
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    You post about 4 post a day...i post 4.7 a day...guess who has both us us beat by 60%?
     
    #158 Jarthur001, Aug 8, 2006
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    I been in some pretty crazy discussions but this is over the edge Joseph. No, I am not going to engage you in a debate if Jesus could go around murdering people and still die for our sins.
     
    #159 Brother Bob, Aug 8, 2006
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    Brother Bob,

    Do you routinely make irellevant statements like this?

    Yes I am.

    Are you? Would you like to answer the previous requests?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #160 Joseph_Botwinick, Aug 8, 2006
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