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Open View of Salvation vs. Predetermination

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Brother Bob

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Jesus did not kill anyone. There are three and these three are one but God did not hang on the cross and die, only His son did.
 

Brother Bob

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Who did Jesus Kill while He was in the flesh. Name me one.
This is a foolish argument from a very young man who needs to grow up.
Did the Holy Ghost Kill also?
 

Jarthur001

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Brother Bob said:
Jesus did not kill anyone. There are three and these three are one but God did not hang on the cross and die, only His son did.
Read the book of Rev...The one on the horse. Killing 100,000s. Who do you think that is?


besides. Joe asked of God killed anyone? And then asked of Jesus is the same nature ...the very being of God
 
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Joseph_Botwinick

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Brother Bob said:
Who did Jesus Kill while He was in the flesh. Name me one.
This is a foolish argument from a very young man who needs to grow up.
Did the Holy Ghost Kill also?

HMMMMMMM....Did I ever say Jesus killed anyone in the flesh? Why does this bother you so much? Of course the Holy Spirit killed in his righteous judgment as God.

Joseph Botwinick
 

Brother Bob

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We haven't got there yet and Hello James good of you to drop in.

Now, to both of you. If Jesus killed anyone he would not have been able to offer a perfect sacrifice would He or are you saying He could kill and still offer the perferct sacrifice for our sins. waiting for you answer. It will be interesting.
 

Jarthur001

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Brother Bob said:
We haven't got there yet and Hello James good of you to drop in.

Now, to both of you. If Jesus killed anyone he would not have been able to offer a perfect sacrifice would He or are you saying He could kill and still offer the perferct sacrifice for our sins. waiting for you answer. It will be interesting.
no...if he murdered any one...he would not have been the perfect sacrifice.

But as Judge has God ever killed any one? Will Jesus ever kill anyone?
 

Joseph_Botwinick

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Brother Bob said:
We haven't got there yet and Hello James good of you to drop in.

Now, to both of you. If Jesus killed anyone he would not have been able to offer a perfect sacrifice would He or are you saying He could kill and still offer the perferct sacrifice for our sins. waiting for you answer. It will be interesting.

Please explain to me why he couldn't offer a perfect sacrifice if he, in his sovereign, holy, and righteous judgment killed someone. Of course he could. God is holy and just in all his judgments and we have no right to question his holiness, because we don't even come close.

Joseph Botwinick
 

Brother Bob

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Don't want to go there. If you do go to it but you have changed the subject.
The subject was did Jesus Kill anyone and never did I think anyone on here would say He did and for sure I know you get radical but to jump on that wagon is beyond me James. I lost some respect for you just now.
 

Brother Bob

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Please explain to me why he couldn't offer a perfect sacrifice if he, in his sovereign, holy, and righteous judgment killed someone. Of course he could. God is holy and just in all his judgments and we have no right to question his holiness, because we don't even come close.
You don't mind if I quote you do you Joseph and James. Especially you Joe.:tear: :tear:
 

Joseph_Botwinick

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Please explain to me why he couldn't offer a perfect sacrifice if he, in his sovereign, holy, and righteous judgment killed someone. Of course he could. God is holy and just in all his judgments and we have no right to question his holiness, because we don't even come close.

Joseph Botwinick
 

saturneptune

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Jarthur001 said:
no change..I just came in and seen it right off. This is what joe always said...

then asked..is jesus God. I'll stay out of it... :)

Good idea, since everyone on BB knows what you think about every aspect of Scripture. There are times when others like to debate.
 

Joseph_Botwinick

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Joseph_Botwinick said:
Please explain to me why he couldn't offer a perfect sacrifice if he, in his sovereign, holy, and righteous judgment killed someone. Of course he could. God is holy and just in all his judgments and we have no right to question his holiness, because we don't even come close.

Joseph Botwinick

Brother Bob,

Would you like to answer the request?

Joseph Botwinick
 

Jarthur001

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saturneptune said:
Good idea, since everyone on BB knows what you think about every aspect of Scripture. There are times when others like to debate.
You post about 4 post a day...i post 4.7 a day...guess who has both us us beat by 60%?
 

Brother Bob

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Brother Bob,

Would you like to answer the request?

Joseph Botwinick
I been in some pretty crazy discussions but this is over the edge Joseph. No, I am not going to engage you in a debate if Jesus could go around murdering people and still die for our sins.
 
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