Paul Proctor on Purpose-Driven

bjonson,

My "bad attitude" is rooted in your ignorance. And yes, you are crying! Your "warning" is hollow and lacks any understanding of the reality of what goes on at Saddleback. Just because others didn't come to Jesus in exactly the same circumstances as you, doesn't make it invalid or shallow or whatever you want to call it. And not to burst your bubble or anything, but your interpretations of scripture are not infallible, so get over yourself.

 

Personally, bjonson,I didn't find anything offensive about g2c's answer to you. I think he's just stating a fact...you have a difference of opinion, and maybe if YOU can't handle the fact that people are going to disagree with you...YOU should be the one to bow out. Your attemp by using Eph 4:31 to make yourself look more spiritual rang hollow with me, and probably with a lot of others here.

 

I had never seen this Paul Proctor article, but the one I saw that made me do a lot of thinking about Purpose Driven Life was this one: Purpose Driven Life article

 

bjonson,

Have you met and talked with Rick Warren? Have you been to Saddleback for a service? Have you heard tesitmonies of changed lives from those that have accepted Jesus under his ministry? Or are you just reading what others have to say about what Warren said?

 

The Bible is a best seller, even among non-christians, IT must be too soft. Maybe the reason its appealing is that it is being used by God? Or its priced to sell? I don't know for sure, but your conclusion is not the only one that fits the facts.

 

A blanket statement, and again, a matter of your own opinion....Do you have statistics to back up your claim?

 

Dr. Bob,

I liked your answer:

Tho' I could not have worded that well, I would have tried to states something like that.

God Bless!

Wayne

 

Critque away I suppose, if it makes you feel better. You are going to be right regardless of what is said. Warren's ministry stands on it's own merits and doesn't need me to defend him. It is unfortunate that you are so willing to be critical of someone you haven't met or really understand.

 

Here is an article from David Cloud, dont know a lot about him.. but this is what he wrote.....

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/warren/visit.htm

 

Cloud is a far right-wing reactionist

 

I would agree with g2c on Cloud being a far right reactionist! He is often wrong in his conclusions, showing far less of the grace of God than the works based religion of the hyperfundamentalist sect of the IFB.

 

With all due respect, would you have to meet and talk with Senator Edward Kennedy, or go to Washington and watch him in action, or hear testimonies of those he has helped to know that his agenda is definitely anti-Christian and anti-family?

What's wrong with taking a good look at a book that so many Christians have embraced, just to see if it is Biblically correct?

Here are a few paragraphs from THIS ARTICLE:

 

The man exaggerates a lot and consistenly lacks integrity.