Are you saying it's NOT inerrant?
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Are you saying it's NOT inerrant?
That is exactly what I am saying
True is not same inerrant
God's word are flawless or pure, but not only God is speaking in the Bible, which doesn't mean they aren't true, (see number 1) but I wouldn't call the non-God parts flawless.
No one accepts inerrancy without qualifications, no one! I prefer to use Bible words when talking about the Bible. I like inspired, God-breathed, useful.
Inerrancy is a club created by conservatives to beat other conservatives to see who is more conservative. It has sense been used wielded against moderates, liberals, feminists, Democrats, Republicans and Catholics. It is circular in its reasoning and does not accurately communicate what the Bible says about itself, instead turning Bibles into idols.
True is not same inerrant
God's word are flawless or pure, but not only God is speaking in the Bible, which doesn't mean they aren't true, (see number 1) but I wouldn't call the non-God parts flawless.
No one accepts inerrancy without qualifications, no one! I prefer to use Bible words when talking about the Bible. I like inspired, God-breathed, useful.
Inerrancy is a club created by conservatives to beat other conservatives to see who is more conservative. It has sense been used wielded against moderates, liberals, feminists, Democrats, Republicans and Catholics. It is circular in its reasoning and does not accurately communicate what the Bible says about itself, instead turning Bibles into idols.
Wow! You certainly have a way with the English language! :laugh:
True is the same an inerrant. If something is non inerrant it is false. All of the Bible is God breathed. It is his words. Yes, you have recorded words of men and women in the Bible, but the words that the writers of Scripture wrote down were exactly how God wanted them to be.
May I ask what parts of the Bible you think are not inerrant?
More From Comfort's Work...Romans
7:6
WH NU : we were freed from the law,having died [to that] in which we were held (NKJ,RSV,NRSV,NEB,REBNJB etc.)
Variant 2/TR : we were freed from the law --bringing death -- in which were held (KJV)
8:11a
NU : the one having raised Christ from the dead (KJV,NKJ,NRSV etc.)
Variant 1/TR : the one having raised Christ Jesus from the dead (RSV,ESV,NEB,REB,NJB etc.)
8:11b
WH NU : through his Spirit dwelling in you ( KJV,NKJ,RSV,NRSV,NEB,REB,NJB,NAB etc.)
Variant/TR : because of his Spirit dwelling in you (TNIV)
8:20,21
TR WH NU : the one subjecting [it], in hope that the creation itself will be freed (NRSV,ESV,REB,NAB etc.)
Variant : the one subjecting it in hope, because the creation itself will be freed ( KJV,NKJ,RSV,NEB,NJB)
7:6
WH NU : we were freed from the law,having died [to that] in which we were held (NKJ,RSV,NRSV,NEB,REBNJB etc.)
Variant 2/TR : we were freed from the law --bringing death -- in which were held (KJV)
8:11a
NU : the one having raised Christ from the dead (KJV,NKJ,NRSV etc.)
Variant 1/TR : the one having raised Christ Jesus from the dead (RSV,ESV,NEB,REB,NJB etc.)
8:11b
WH NU : through his Spirit dwelling in you ( KJV,NKJ,RSV,NRSV,NEB,REB,NJB,NAB etc.)
Variant/TR : because of his Spirit dwelling in you (TNIV)
8:20,21
TR WH NU : the one subjecting [it], in hope that the creation itself will be freed (NRSV,ESV,REB,NAB etc.)
Variant : the one subjecting it in hope, because the creation itself will be freed ( KJV,NKJ,RSV,NEB,NJB)
I have question about this one. Comfort has the NU and TR different here, but they are identical.
νυνι δε κατηργηθημεν απο του νομου αποθανοντες εν ω κατειχομεθα ωστε δουλευειν ημας εν καινοτητι πνευματος και ου παλαιοτητι γραμματος - WH
νυνι δε κατηργηθημεν απο του νομου αποθανοντος εν ω κατειχομεθα ωστε δουλευειν ημας εν καινοτητι πνευματος και ου παλαιοτητι γραμματος - NU
νυνι δε κατηργηθημεν απο του νομου αποθανοντος εν ω κατειχομεθα ωστε δουλευειν ημας εν καινοτητι πνευματος και ου παλαιοτητι γραμματος - TR
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In Comfort's book the WH NU differs slightly from the second variant (the TR). I don't know how to type all the Greek characters.
In his explanation he says that the second variant (the TR) ..."was printed in Elzevir's Greek New Testament (1624),based on a conjecture of Beza,who misunderstood Chrysostom. It was then translated in the KJV,which seems to indicate that the law generates death:'We are delivered from the law,being dead wherein wee were held.' The WH NU reading has the best support and perfectly suits the context, which indicates that the believers are freed from the tryanny of the law because they have died to the law in Christ's death."
More from Comfort : Ephesians
1:14
WH NU : Which is a guarantee (KJV,RSV,NRSV,NAB)
Variant/TR : who is a guarantee ( NKJ,NIV,TNIV,HCSB,NET etc.)
2:5a
TR WH NU : dead in trespasses (NKJ,NIV,TNIV,HCSB,NET etc.)
Variant 2 : dead in sins (KJV,NEB,REB,NJB)
4:24a
TR WH NU : to put on the new person (NIV,TNIV,NET etc.)
Variant : put on the new person (KJV,NKJ,NEB,REB etc.)
1:14
WH NU : Which is a guarantee (KJV,RSV,NRSV,NAB)
Variant/TR : who is a guarantee ( NKJ,NIV,TNIV,HCSB,NET etc.)
2:5a
TR WH NU : dead in trespasses (NKJ,NIV,TNIV,HCSB,NET etc.)
Variant 2 : dead in sins (KJV,NEB,REB,NJB)
4:24a
TR WH NU : to put on the new person (NIV,TNIV,NET etc.)
Variant : put on the new person (KJV,NKJ,NEB,REB etc.)
Comfort in Colossians
1:27b
WH NU : which is Christ in you ( most translations)
Variant/TR : who is Christ in you ( no translations)
3:17b
WH NU : giving thanks to God the Father (NKJ,NIV,TNIV,NLT,HCSB,NET etc.)
Variant/TR : giving thanks to God and the Father ( KJV)
1:27b
WH NU : which is Christ in you ( most translations)
Variant/TR : who is Christ in you ( no translations)
3:17b
WH NU : giving thanks to God the Father (NKJ,NIV,TNIV,NLT,HCSB,NET etc.)
Variant/TR : giving thanks to God and the Father ( KJV)
Explain the underlined part?
I think HankD means is that what the serpent said to eve was a lie, but the words in the Bible accurately say what the serpent said. At least that was my take on it.
Correct.
These words of the serpent are what Moses was inspired to write without any error (sugar-coating, exageration, etc) - the first lie ever told, obviously God did not tell the lie but He wanted it recorded without error in order to expose satan (who presumably possessed or totally controlled the serpent) as the father of lies.
HankD
OK, I misunderstood your post at first.
I thought you meant that Satan did not say that to Eve.
I thought you meant that Satan did not say that to Eve.
OK.
There is also a lot of advise given in the Scripture which although was not given by God is of the same kind. An inspired historical record.
e.g. Job's wife
Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.
It is not what God desired from Job but a record of his wife's ill advised solution to the problem.
HankD
It is not what God desired from Job but a record of his wife's ill advised solution to the problem.
HankD
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