Politics vs The Kingdom

No, quite the opposite. I am saying that Christians stand for Christ.

We can see atheists standing against abortion. We see a secular political party standing against abortion. We can even see Christians yoking themselves to secular politics and policies to oppose whatever they feel needs opposing.

But we (Christians) are called to be a Light, not to simply blend in. We stand for Christ and in so doing we stand for life (which is the opposite of abortion but based on Christ rather than any secular ideas).

Are you saying that Jesus stood for homosexuality and abortion since He did not address the secular government under which he was lived?

Are you suggesting Jesus was wrong? Negligent?

Do you think that Jesus should have accepted Satan's deal and became ruler over the secular world rather than remaining obedient to God?

 

That is up to the individual to ask.

Do you believe worldly politics is the answer or Jesus? Is it both?

 

Sure they can - I agree.

Bur Jesus didn't so I do not believe it is appropriate to insist that Christians must become yoked with the world or to include conservative political parties.

 

The Disciples did not either. Neither did the NT Church or the early Church. And the ECF's spoke against political involvement.

So why condemn my convictions not to support a political party?

 

If this is true then way was Jesus, the Disciples, and the early church not involved in all areas of the culture to include politics. Were they wrong?

 

That is not my point. They did not even suggest Christians needed to be involved in secular culture.

Look, I'm not even saying Christians shouldn't. I am saying that my conscious dictates that I not be involved in politics. So there are two very important things here.

I would never encourage you to abandon the GOP because that is not up to me (that is between you and God). But you, and others, seem to be suggesting that I need to be involved in worldly institutions (in politics) against my conscious.

I do not see your response as being compatible with Paul's theology or with Baptist theology.

 

It is not for me to say of they were wrong. There were Christians on both sides.

The Dutch Reformed (including black men) favored slavery as a social necessity. George Whitfield supported slavery.


And there were Christians who opposed slavery.

I never said people would be wrong to join a political party. I said I would be wrong to do so as that is against my convictions.

 

I do not support abortion or a gay agenda either.

 

It depends on the person. Paul tells us to obey our conscience. If I am convicted it is wrong then for me it would be a sin.

Do it can easily be either/ or (unless Paul was wrong).