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Too bad for the early church and everyone up to Calvin in 1564. None had the truth according to your Satanic Majesty.

"Am I of Paul? Am I of Apollos?, nay, I am of Calvin, the murderer of the brethren."

Still ignoring that little word IF I see.

Care to respond on your leader?

His fruits?

Of course not, that might expose you.

Your TULIP is wilting.

 

Whats to bad is that you dont believe the Gospel and dismiss it in the name of a man !

And Yes, The Gospel is hid and that permanently to them that are Lost ! 2 Cor 4:3

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

Trying to hide behind the word if is not going to change the Truth stated about the Lost !

 

Take it apart and consider

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

When you read this without the IF, it becomes:

But our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

This now takes on the meaning that the gospel is hidden to all people that are lost.

Everyone is lost before they hear the Gospel: "and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard?"

When you read it as written:

But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

"them that are lost" refers to a certain group of people. They are identified in the next line:

" In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,.."

"them which believe not"

Referring back to Romans "and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard?" also is equivocally saying "how shall they not believe of whom they have not heard"


The same can be seen in "the glass is half full" as an equal statement to "the glass is half empty"

You are saying SBM, that God hid the Gospel from "them which believe not" as if they have NEVER heard it.

That is an untrue assumption revealed in Romans with "how shall they not believe of whom they have not heard"

By taking out or ignoring the IF, you have crafted the scripture to fit Calvinism.

 

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Thats a Lie, not one scripture says that, also, if you believe that, you believe that Christ's Death alone saved no one from the penalty of their sins !

 

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Thats Right, the saved cannot know and believe they are saved and why until they hear the Gospel of their Salvation !

Those who are Lost have no salvation, thats why they are Lost DUH !

 

Still ignoring IF and Calvins character, interesting

 

You ignoring the fact that Christ's death saved those He died for ! Thats a grave thing !

 

No, you conveniently put that on me to attempt prove your point and draw away from the fruit of Calvin's life. Doesn't matter, you are a diehard follower of Lord Calvin.

 

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."

If the world is not saved, they are lost. The word "might" implies the world has a chance, an option, a choice.

 

This is not the truth according to your own theology. Preaching has no purpose for the lost people. They are damned from all eternity. Their fate was sealed before the foundation of the earth. Why preach to them the gospel. It is cruel to preach to a people who cannot hear the gospel, understand the gospel, and at the end, even if they could understand it and believe it, would find out that they are eternally condemned to the Lake of Fire anyway.
It is more than just a joke. It is the most cruel religion drawn up by Satan that denies the love of God who states in no uncertain terms "I love thee with an everlasting love," "He so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son," "He came not to condemn the world, but to save.."
He came to seek and to save that which was lost.

Over and over again Christ extends his invitation, a very loving invitation to the lost.
He wept over Jerusalem, not just the elect in Jerusalem, but ALL who were in Jerusalem. Surely not ALL that were in Jerusalem were the elect of God. Some of them were the very ones that crucified him. Yet he wept over them in love.
God is a God of love, whom the Calvinists portray as a God of cruelty.

 

Originally Posted by Romans 10:12-17

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

I like the NASB in Rom 10:8-11
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,
9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.”

 

dhk

Evasion and now deceit and misrepresentation !

 

Tell less stories -- read more Bible --

[FONT=&quot]1 Tim 1[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12 [/FONT][FONT=&quot]I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, putting me into service,[/FONT][FONT=&quot] 13 even though I was formerly a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent aggressor. Yet I was shown mercy because I acted ignorantly in unbelief; 14 and the grace of our Lord was more than abundant, with the faith and love which are found in Christ Jesus. 15 It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, among whom I am foremost of all. 16 Yet for this reason I found mercy, so that in me as the foremost, Jesus Christ might demonstrate His perfect patience as an example for those who would believe in Him for eternal life. 17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]The God of the Bible "came to seek and save the lost". Luke 19:10, Matt 18:11

“He came to His OWN and His OWN received Him not” John1:11


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[FONT=&quot]Acts 17[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]24 [/FONT][FONT=&quot]The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands;[/FONT][FONT=&quot] 25 nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things; 26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, 27 that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’ 29 Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. 30 Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]1 Tim 2[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 [/FONT][FONT=&quot]This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,[/FONT][FONT=&quot] 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all,[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]2 Pet 3[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]9 [/FONT][FONT=&quot]The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]1 John 2[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Jesus Christ “is the Atoning Sacrifice for OUR sins and NOT for OUR sins only but for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD” [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]“God sent His Son to be the Savior of the WORLD” 1John 4:14[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Eph 2[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, 3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.[/FONT]

 

That is not helpful in the discussion. Christian courtesy and respect is the better road.

 

Again you dont believe that Christ's death alone saved them He died for from the penalty of their sins !

Thats a lie, the word might used with the word hina That denotes a stated purpose . The conjunction hina :

in order that, so that.,

That was God's Purpose behind sending Christ, to save it, not to give folk a choice, a chance, an option ! Thats not what Jn 3:17 says, you outright lied, made a false statement ! You probably been doing it for years, so its premeditated !

Nah, it was Lost, for Christ came to seek and to save it remember ? Lk 19:10

Now do you believe Christ was 100 % successful in seeking and saving that world He was suppose to save in Jn 3:17 ? Yes or No ?

 

That statement is an admission that you are unable to face the truth that I posted, the refutation of your post. You are unable to accept it. You cannot deny these facts. Therefore you simply and anemically reply "evasion..."
It is a cowardly answer that says: "I don't know how to answer your post."
Pitiful!

 

again:

Evasion and now deceit and misrepresentation !

 

We can both play that game.
Just a cowardly answer that says: "I don't know how to answer your post."
Pitiful!

 

Evasion and Rabbit Trail !

 

your statement shows that you are still confused about what the Atoning Sacrifice of Christ is -- in the context of Atonement itself.

Hence you have to keep running away from all those texts showing that Christ is working to save the Lost - lamenting when they reject the gospel and asking "what more could I have done".

As we are given the ministry of reconciliation in this fashion "We BEG YOU on behalf of CHRIST - be reconciled TO God" 2Cor 5.

in Christ,

Bob