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Rather, Preterism is about the ESCHATOLOGICAL events that occurred at the end of the Old Covenant Age.
The Age of the New & Everlasting Covenant has no end. Thats why its called "everlasting".
Can you be mre specific?
When was this section fulfilled? (or has it been yet?)
41 They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”
42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
‘The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone.
This was the Lord’s doing,
And it is marvelous in our eyes’?
43 “Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it.
Fuflilled or still future?
if fulfileld, then WHEN?
I say it was fulfilled in 70AD... do you disagree?
You, sir, are no literalist.
You pick and choose which scriptures to spiritualize as they suit your paradigm.
Where does scripture teach you to SPIRITUALIZE THIS language:
8“Then the earth shook and trembled;
The foundations of heaven quaked and were shaken,
Because He was angry.
9 Smoke went up from His nostrils,
And devouring fire from His mouth;
Coals were kindled by it.
10 He bowed the heavens also, and came down
With darkness under His feet.
11 He rode upon a cherub, and flew;
And He was seen upon the wings of the wind.
12 He made darkness canopies around Him,
Dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
13 From the brightness before Him
Coals of fire were kindled.
But LITERALIZE This Language:
And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.
Its the same language...the same artistic writing style of the Jewish genre of Apocalypsis, of which the apostles were well versed in. The Apostles didn't teach anything new... they quoted from and pointed to the OT, they spoke in the language of all the prophets before them.
This is how the prophets spoke.
You have no scriptural instruction to interpret this language as "artistic license" in the OT, but interpret in wooden literal fashion when you find it in the NT.
None whatsoever.
Carnal Desire for these passages to be about you in your day is all the reason you can cite.
In fact, the Apostles would find your interpretations unrecognizable.
Isaiah claims every eye from ever nation SAW God's Physical Arm.
Can you prove it? PROVE IT.
Show us the historical evidence that EVERY EYE OF EVERY NATIONS saw God's arm... must be recorded in the annuls of History somewhere right? such a monumental GLOBALLY VISABLE event of the Arm of God beeing SEEN by every eye
Man you make this too easy:
Hear the word of Yahweh: Thus says the Lord Yahweh, Behold, I will kindle a fire in you, and it shall devour every green tree in you, and every dry tree: the flaming flame shall not be quenched, and all faces from the south to the north shall be burnt thereby. All flesh shall see that I, Yahweh, have kindled it...Thus says Yahweh: Behold, I am against you, and will draw forth my sword out of its sheath, and will cut off from you the righteous and the wicked. Seeing then that I will cut off from you the righteous and the wicked, therefore shall my sword go forth out of its sheath against all flesh from the south to the north: and all flesh shall know that I, Yahweh, have drawn forth my sword out of its sheath (Ez 20:33-35,47-48; 21:3-5)
When did ALL FLESH SEE Yahweh Kindle a fire that devoured EVERY GREEN TREE Roby?
When was that EXACLTY??
where is your PROOF it happened?
When did All flesh KNOW God drew His sword at that time?
Prove ALL FLESH KNEW. Go ahead.
Yes they Did! Good Job!
And scripture testifies that, at that time, this LITERALLY happened:
For behold, the Lord is coming out of His place;
He will come down
And tread on the high places of the earth.
4 The mountains will melt under Him,
And the valleys will split
Like wax before the fire,
Where is your PROOF that the Lord LITERALLY did this at the time the people went into exile?
Where are these "Split Valleys" today? where are the remnants of the "Melted Mountains" Today? its' only been a few thousand years,,,Surely we can get on Google earth and you can point me to the physical evidence, no?
If you say it's "artistic licence" then again, where is your scriptural instruction to interpret this as Artistic license, spiritual metaphor:
He will come down
And tread on the high places of the earth.
4 The mountains will melt under Him,
And the valleys will split
But, in polar opposite fashion, you interpret this in hyper wooden literal fashion:
And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, From east to west, Making a very large valley; Half of the mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south.
As far as I can tell, You only do so because your paradigm requires you fit the scripture to your view.
You have offered a grand total of ZERO scriptural instructions to do what you are doing here Roby. ZERO.
In contrast, I contend one must comport ones view to fit the scripture.
You are by no means consistent in your interprative style Roby... you pick and choose willy nilly what to claim is literal and what to claim is spiritual in the complete absense of ANY scrioptural instruction to do so.
You do it purely to wrest the scriptures to suit your previously held futurist bias.
Again, why should I or anyone else execute to a standard that you yourself REFUSE to abide by?
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