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'Prison-like' migrant youth shelter is understaffed, unequipped for Trump's 'zero tolerance' policy

atpollard

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Why is it the fault of the Government if parents break the law, get arrested and their children suffer. Of course it is tragic. Of course it is traumatic for innocent child victims of their parent's actions. Guess what, as an 'emergency placement foster home' we saw the exact same thing when the Police dropped off terrified children, often suffering from illness, neglect and abuse, who just saw their parents arrested in a raid on a Meth-lab. Is it wrong for the police to arrest criminals because it will upset their innocent children, or is it the fault of the parents who dragged those children into this unfortunate circumstance.

Illegal immigration is ... ILLEGAL. There is no nation on Earth where you can just show up and be a citizen.

If the shelters are incapable of handling crowds, these are not prisons with no options. We can speed up deportations (returning these children to THEIR OWN COUNTRIES) and reduce crowding. Brazil has people who speak Portuguese and can help these children find temporary placement with a relative until they can be reunited with their parents.
 
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777

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Yet another distraction thread. This center opened under the Obama administration:

TUCSON (KGUN9-TV) - Less than a day after a source confirms to 9OYS, 160 unaccompanied migrant children are now living inside a former Tucson student housing complex, a moving van was parked outside the shelter.

Last month, Tucson city leaders gave Southwest Key, the federally contracted Texas-based non-profit running the shelter, the O.K. to house 160 migrant children under the guidance of the Department of Health and Human services. Late last month, the non-profit hired hundreds of employees in Tucson.

The shelter is located on Oracle and Drachman. A sign reading, "College Place," is still on display outside the student apartments-turned-shelter.

Security guards positioned outside were quick to turn the 9OYS crew away. One security guard told 9OYS reporter Cory Marshall, " My job is to keep people off the grounds that don't belong here and that's what I'm doing," after she asked for a Southwest Key supervisor.

In early June, U.S. Customs and Border Protection began busing unaccompanied migrant children to their border patrol facility in Nogales. It happened in response to an influx of unattended and undocumented children from Central American crossing into the U.S.

In a statement released to 9OYS a Department of Health and Human Services wouldn't address the Tucson shelter specifically, writing , "the impact of these shelters on the local community is minimal. HHS pays for and provides all services for the children through its network and grantees. This includes providing food, clothing, education and medical screening to the children. Children spend less than 30 days on average at the shelters and do not integrate into the local community. They remain under staff supervision at all times."

yet all of a sudden now, the left is screaming about how terrible it is for these "kids" (most are over 14) to be separated from their "migrant" (illegal alien) parents. Beats talking about the IG report though.
 

Salty

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Please explain something to me! If a parent (s) are sent back to their home country - why dont they take their kids with them?
 

atpollard

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Please explain something to me! If a parent (s) are sent back to their home country - why don't they take their kids with them?
For some strange reason (that probably has a logic and a story behind it) the Law is reported to require that Adults and Children taken into custody for possible deportation must be housed separately. So these children have just been separated from parents that are also awaiting a deportation hearing.

The question becomes what happens if the children are citizens (born here) and the parents are illegal and ordered deported?
 

Revmitchell

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What is evil is putting yourself in the position of being arrested and then being separated from your children. The government is not to blame for enforcing its laws.
 

Salty

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My question has nothing to do with waiting on a deportation hearing. In fact, I would suppose if the individual chose to go back to his home country immediately - the US govt would NOT object.
The question becomes what happens if the children are citizens (born here) and the parents are illegal and ordered deported?

Why would the US Government forbid the kids to go with their parents?
 

Adonia

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No it isn't. These people have no business being here and they are trying to game the system by showing up at the door and demanding to be let in. If they do not want to be separated from their children then these people should stay at home and apply for entry from there.

A person from Guatamala for instance who is claiming "refugee" status is supposed to receive refuge from the first country they cross into when leaving their own and that is certainly not America. Where is it written that we are required to take all these people in?

I will remind you that American families are separated all the time. When the young mother who is in the Army is sent to a place like Afghanistan for duty for 6 months or a year she is separated from her children. People get arrested all the time and are sent to prison, thereby also separating families. So really, what makes these foreigners so special?

I am really getting tired of having to take in the destitute and the forlorn from the whole world and having to pay for their upkeep while they are here. My purpose as a citizen of the United States America is not to have to pay ever more taxes to provide housing, healthcare, food, and spending money to those people who happen to be born in a sewer of a country. Enough already!
 

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Ruben Navarrette Jr.. ...“I wrote about the 3 million deportations carried out by the Obama administration,” Navarrette said, “but I couldn’t get a lot of liberals in the media to join me on the front lines.”

And these same liberals who are most vocal about us taking these people in never offer to take a family or two into their own homes and be financially responsible for them.
 

777

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So how is Trumps policy different from Obama?


well, it's not but remember a week or so ago that the MSM was posting pictures of CHILDREN in CAGES? They were taken during the Obama administration.

Dishonest as can be, but the left loves to use children (the ones they don't abort) and heartbreak as opportunities to advance their agenda.
 

Salty

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And these same liberals who are most vocal about us taking these people in never offer to take a family or two into their own homes and be financially responsible for them.


Actually, several years ago, I was listening to liberal Ed Schultz. mentioned on his talk show -about having families living with you until they gets settled.
 

Reformed

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Parents using their children as human immigration shields is evil.

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Adonia

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Actually, several years ago, I was listening to liberal Ed Schultz. mentioned on his talk show -about having families living with you until they gets settled.

He talked about it, but did it actually happen? Liberals always come up with these "do good" ideas, and then they foist it upon the entire country instead of banding together themselves and using their own money.
 

atpollard

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Actually, several years ago, I was listening to liberal Ed Schultz. mentioned on his talk show -about having families living with you until they gets settled.
They are called ‘household servants’. Don’t a lot of rich people already get in trouble for ‘taking in’ undocumented nannies and maids and gardeners?
 

777

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Happens to EVERY parent that gets locked up here, citizen or not. Children do not go to jail with their parents. Comprender?

yeah, and look at all the rape and other child abuse that went on in European refugee camps.
 

Rob_BW

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Parents using their children as human immigration shields is evil.

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Second and third order effects of silly policy.

If you bringing your kid becomes a literal get out of jail free card, then more illegal immigrants will decide to bring their family along .
 

Reynolds

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Second and third order effects of silly policy.

If you bringing your kid becomes a literal get out of jail free card, then more illegal immigrants will decide to bring their family along .
That was Obama's plan.
 
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