Proper Sunday Dress

[Don]

I was hoping to hear your views on Don's take on 1 Tim 2:9, found in this post:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1939240&postcount=99

Because an argument can be made that this verse states women are NOT supposed to get all dressed up in their finest clothes, or "Sunday best".

ARGH. How is it that you and I can agree on some things, but be so far apart on topics like gun control?!? <grin>

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

These are the folks who watch a lot of cable TV namely, Duck Dynasty, Swamp People & Redneck Island

Not your family & friends Berean.....but I do know you recognize that type. :tongue3:

 

[salzer mtn]

So much for that heart transplant God does. So much for God being faithful to cause us to walk in His ways. So much for being a new creation too. So much for no longer being a slave to sin. One wonders why Christ died for us in your theological world. I do believe all of this but i also think a man is responsible for his character and conduct and to maintain good works.


You go on and on about how we're ignoring Scripture, yet you are the one blowing past vast sections of God's Word in order to sanctimoniously condemn people you don't know anything about.

It's not i condemn a individual i know nothing about but by scripture i know what is in man. Our Lord said, he needed not that man should testify of man: For He knew what was in man St John 2:25 People have a bad habbit of honoring man above that which is written.

I don't think a true christian will ever be a slave to sin to the point he will apostisize but the scripture teaches me to put on the whole armor of God that ye may be able to stand againsts the wiles of the devil and i know the wiles of the devil is not flesh and blood but spiritual wickedness in high places Eph 6:13 but the spirit of Saten tempts through means, and that means could be the form of a beautiful woman. Did not Eve tempt Adam to sin ? The heart transplant that you speak of is a new nature. A christian now has two natures, the new nature and the old nature thats called the old man or the Adam nature.

 

[salzer mtn]

How do I know? Because I know my husband's character and we talk. No, he absolutely doesn't live above sin - trust me. We both know that. However, seeing a woman dressed provacatively doesn't mean he's sinning. Entertaining further thoughts would be a sin - not just seeing something.

As for you being a man, then maybe the whole reason you are taking this stance is because you yourself struggle with this and place the blame on women instead of on yourself. I can't help you with that - that is your own heart that is deceptive - not a woman in pants.

If i had said in my first post i don't believe a christian woman should wear a bathing suit instead of i don't believe a christian woman should wear pants, would all of these post turned out the same ?

 

[InTheLight]

ARGH. How is it that you and I can agree on some things, but be so far apart on topics like gun control?!? <grin>

I don't think we are far apart on gun control. Up until Newtown I was in the camp of no new regulations on guns. Now I'm in the camp of "what can we do that will work?" (Thanks for reminding me, I need to revisit that thread.) Back to this thread...

 

[annsni]

If i had said in my first post i don't believe a christian woman should wear a bathing suit instead of i don't believe a christian woman should wear pants, would all of these post turned out the same ?

YEP :type:

 

[annsni]

It's not i condemn a individual i know nothing about but by scripture i know what is in man. Our Lord said, he needed not that man should testify of man: For He knew what was in man St John 2:25 People have a bad habbit of honoring man above that which is written.

I don't think a true christian will ever be a slave to sin to the point he will apostisize but the scripture teaches me to put on the whole armor of God that ye may be able to stand againsts the wiles of the devil and i know the wiles of the devil is not flesh and blood but spiritual wickedness in high places Eph 6:13 but the spirit of Saten tempts through means, and that means could be the form of a beautiful woman. Did not Eve tempt Adam to sin ? The heart transplant that you speak of is a new nature. A christian now has two natures, the new nature and the old nature thats called the old man or the Adam nature.

But just because maybe you struggle with seeing a woman in pants and desiring to leave your wife doesn't mean that every man does. I've seen other women lust over fancy clothes, great shoes or gorgeous men. None of that does a thing for me. But show me a good dressage horse and I just might not make dinner and instead go look at the horse. That doesn't mean that every woman will react the same way. Nor do men.

 

[Mexdeaf]

But just because maybe you struggle with seeing a woman in pants and desiring to leave your wife doesn't mean that every man does. I've seen other women lust over fancy clothes, great shoes or gorgeous men. None of that does a thing for me. But show me a good dressage horse and I just might not make dinner and instead go look at the horse. That doesn't mean that every woman will react the same way. Nor do men.

You mean a horse wearing a dress? Are they forbidden to wear pants, too?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

You mean a horse wearing a dress? Are they forbidden to wear pants, too?

That sure aint no Quarter Cuttin Horse from Wichita Falls MD :laugh:

 

[Arbo]

Wifey told me about a church a number of years ago that required visiting women who showed up to services wearing pants to don a paper dress before they would be admitted. I thought she was joking, but she was not. Anyone else heard of this being practiced, and if so do you consider it appropriate? If so, please explain why.

 

[Arbo]

None of that does a thing for me. But show me a good dressage horse and I just might not make dinner and instead go look at the horse.

Does your husband question what's in the stew?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Wifey told me about a church a number of years ago that required visiting women who showed up to services wearing pants to don a paper dress before they would be admitted. I thought she was joking, but she was not. Anyone else heard of this being practiced, and if so do you consider it appropriate? If so, please explain why.

LOL---Paper Couture?!? you must be joking???

 

[salzer mtn]

But just because maybe you struggle with seeing a woman in pants and desiring to leave your wife doesn't mean that every man does. I've seen other women lust over fancy clothes, great shoes or gorgeous men. None of that does a thing for me. But show me a good dressage horse and I just might not make dinner and instead go look at the horse. That doesn't mean that every woman will react the same way. Nor do men.

My wife and i have been married for fourty two years and are happy. Lady you sure do assume a lot, LOL. I can't say that wearing pants is a sin like a sin that would seperate you from God unto a spiritual death but if you offended the weaker brother by doing so, would you do as the bible say's in Rom 14:15 and walk charitably and not wear them, so as not to destroy the weaker brother, or would you not ? The bible says we are not to drink wine or eat flesh nor ANYTHING whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak Rom 14:21. The bible says that we should take heed of our liberty in Christ of doing certain things lest you become a stumbling block to them that are weak. 1 Cor 8:9 The bible also says in 1 Cor 8:12 that you can sin against the brethren and when you do, you sin against Christ. The bible says it's the little foxes that spoils the vines.

 

[mont974x4]

Wow never have I seen a bigger pot try to call a kettle black. Check your heart...er...eye for that logjam you got.

 

[InTheLight]

Can we hit the pause button on women wearing pants issue and get back to this?:

I would refer to 1 Tim 2:9-10

I know clothes don't have anything to do with being spiritual unless there is a lack of clothing but i do think it shows the world that when you go to the house of God to worship God you have enough respect for His presence to clothe your body in the best you have

1 Tim 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;


What do you say about women wearing their "Sunday best" and wearing jewelry in light of this verse? Taken literally, it seems to say that women should NOT wear their best clothes, should NOT wear jewelry. So why don't we hear preaching against this?

 

[annsni]

Does your husband question what's in the stew?

Oh, hush up!!!

Although, honestly, I'm not opposed to horsemeat for human consumption. Just not MY horses!!

 

[annsni]

My wife and i have been married for fourty two years and are happy. Lady you sure do assume a lot, LOL. I can't say that wearing pants is a sin like a sin that would seperate you from God unto a spiritual death but if you offended the weaker brother by doing so, would you do as the bible say's in Rom 14:15 and walk charitably and not wear them, so as not to destroy the weaker brother, or would you not ? The bible says we are not to drink wine or eat flesh nor ANYTHING whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak Rom 14:21. The bible says that we should take heed of our liberty in Christ of doing certain things lest you become a stumbling block to them that are weak. 1 Cor 8:9 The bible also says in 1 Cor 8:12 that you can sin against the brethren and when you do, you sin against Christ. The bible says it's the little foxes that spoils the vines.

So, this means that we should not spend money because it could cause someone to go into debt.

It means that we should not drive a nice car because it could cause someone to covet.

It means to not have a great marriage and a wonderful relationship because it could cause someone to stumble and want what we have.

No. We don't go through life wondering if every single thing is going to "cause someone to stumble". HOWEVER, if I know that someone struggles with a particular sin, I will be careful around them. I do not serve alcohol in my house but I do cook with it. But if you are an alcoholic and come over, I will not serve something with alcohol in it in deference of you. BUT that doesn't mean I'll never cook with alcohol again.

But honestly, if me wearing a pair of slacks is going to cause a man to lust, then it is not me who has a problem. I'm sure I could wear whatever and for whatever reason, a man will lust (although after 4 c-sections and 47 years, I'm not sure I'm causing too many men to sin - LOL). I'm covered, I'm modest, my husband approves of what I wear and that is who I answer to. A man who has a problem with that has a heart issue that he would need to address between himself and the Lord - and not me.

 

[annsni]

You mean a horse wearing a dress? Are they forbidden to wear pants, too?

 

[salzer mtn]

HOWEVER, if I know that someone struggles with a particular sin,

All men struggle with men's sins at a certain age or they are not men. They may not be attracted to you in pants or a low cut blouse but some woman dressed this way can tempt a man.

 

[salzer mtn]

Wow never have I seen a bigger pot try to call a kettle black. Check your heart...er...eye for that logjam you got.

Paul said, For i have not shunned to declare unto you ALL the counsel of God. Act's 20:27