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Pushing your beliefs on others

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Yeshua1

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StefanM said:
Way to duck the question! You are assuming the truth of your claim.

What about the possibility that the offer isn't really there?

I know that's more associated with hyper-Calvinism, but it's a lot more consistent.
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God chose this way to save sinners, was he wrong to do it this way then?
 
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I can't answer that question because I believe your assumption is incorrect. I don't accept your premise.
 
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Yeshua1 said:
God used thi way to save lost sinnrs, as this is the only way avaiable to allow Him to be both Holy ad Just and loving, and He gets the glory in it!
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Again, your premise is flawed.

Is it REALLY the ONLY possible way? If so, such a God isn't all that powerful. He'd be constrained into just one option.
 
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StefanM said:
Again, your premise is flawed.

Is it REALLY the ONLY possible way? If so, such a God isn't all that powerful. He'd be constrained into just one option.
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The only way that allows him to stay Hol/Just and lovong, as His demands to have his wrath appeased for our sins and still love us and saved us comes thru this way!
 
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Yeshua1 said:
The only way that allows him to stay Hol/Just and lovong, as His demands to have his wrath appeased for our sins and still love us and saved us comes thru this way!
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You can insist something, but that doesn't make it true.
 
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Yeshua1 said:
God used thi way to save lost sinnrs, as this is the only way avaiable to allow Him to be both Holy ad Just and loving, and He gets the glory in it!
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Repeating a falsehood doesn't make it true.

you're still peddling a perverted message
 
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I think it's important to point out that it appears that Yeshua1 would likely fall on the "things are good because God likes them" horn of the Euthyphro dilemma.

Therefore, by definition, anything that God did would be good, no matter what.

That horn of the dilemma has quite a few issues.
 
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StefanM said:
I think it's important to point out that it appears that Yeshua1 would likely fall on the "things are good because God likes them" horn of the Euthyphro dilemma.

Therefore, by definition, anything that God did would be good, no matter what.

That horn of the dilemma has quite a few issues.
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God an only do wht is rightat all things, its due to Him being perfect in all of His ways!
 
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